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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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Here for a feeler for a new MOTOR FX product: Scion xB Harness Bars!

these are very custom and doesnt hinder the ingress or egress of the rear passengers

price goal under $400

any questions feel free to ask

spy shots we did off a subaru, it will pretty much look like this powder coated black


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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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brackets in the middle coi? any chance they can be put on the sides?
Old Jan 27, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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thats just for the racing style 5 point safety harness right
Old Jan 28, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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brackets in the middle coi? any chance they can be put on the sides?
they are put in the middle so it doesnt get in the way of the passengers goin in and out the back seat, and it actually adds more rigidity with the bars in the middle it only hold half the bar, not the full bar if u know what im sayin

hornet, yes these are for 4 or 5 point racing harnesses

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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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its another O.S. bar for the rear passengers
Old Jan 28, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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way TOO expensive. these things are cheap and easy to make they are worth no more than 200.00 it's a shame i love em.
Old Jan 28, 2006 | 12:37 AM
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if the price was around $200.00 that would be great! $400.00 is way to much.


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if the price was around $200.00 that would be great! $400.00 is way to much.


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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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^^^^I concur...
Old Jan 28, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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Notice he said less than $400. And if you look on EBAY, a Sparco harness bar costs $380. These bars will be less than $380. And it is impossible to make a harness bar $200.
Old Jan 28, 2006 | 01:21 AM
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I fabricate for a living and retail for 10' of 1.5" .120 wall tubing is $17.67, 4 tabs are $20 or less, + hardware and misc. stuff, and assuming you used all 10' it would still only cost about $50-$60 to build, $140-150 is a lot to charge for labor for a few bends and a few welds. Anymore than $200 is too much. Your profit may not be super high, but neither is your labor involvement.

I don't mean to be rude, but it sure is possible to make these fore around $200.
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OK point well taken, but have u actually MADE this bar thats pictured above?
i mean its 1 big bar, 2 small bars, end links, brackets and powder coating

if you can mke these for $60 each powder coated fitted and track proven! let me know ill buy 10 of you NOW?

if not my price on this i said was UNDER $400 and i will be sellin em at $350

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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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coi hit me up when u get this wanted to talk to uabout it =P
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Originally Posted by xKEITH760x
I fabricate for a living and retail for 10' of 1.5" .120 wall tubing is $17.67, 4 tabs are $20 or less, + hardware and misc. stuff, and assuming you used all 10' it would still only cost about $50-$60 to build, $140-150 is a lot to charge for labor for a few bends and a few welds. Anymore than $200 is too much. Your profit may not be super high, but neither is your labor involvement.

I don't mean to be rude, but it sure is possible to make these fore around $200.
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Just wondering, would you use a jig to make the bends consistent, and who has the machine to do it? And the saw to make the angled cuts for welding the tabs onto the bar.

If you can make some for that price, I'd buy at least 10 also, if its of the same quality and uses the same quality Heim joints and such. Of course I'd have to see them in person first. And they do come powdercoated right?
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Originally Posted by xKEITH760x
I fabricate for a living and retail for 10' of 1.5" .120 wall tubing is $17.67, 4 tabs are $20 or less, + hardware and misc. stuff, and assuming you used all 10' it would still only cost about $50-$60 to build, $140-150 is a lot to charge for labor for a few bends and a few welds. Anymore than $200 is too much. Your profit may not be super high, but neither is your labor involvement.

I don't mean to be rude, but it sure is possible to make these fore around $200.
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Just wondering, would you use a jig to make the bends consistent, and who has the machine to do it? And the saw to make the angled cuts for welding the tabs onto the bar.

If you can make some for that price, I'd buy at least 10 also, if its of the same quality and uses the same quality Heim joints and such. Of course I'd have to see them in person first. And they do come powdercoated right?
Good points but im with Brad all that for under 200... Im there too buying some to sell
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Originally Posted by squirrel
Just wondering, would you use a jig to make the bends consistent, and who has the machine to do it? And the saw to make the angled cuts for welding the tabs onto the bar.

If you can make some for that price, I'd buy at least 10 also, if its of the same quality and uses the same quality Heim joints and such. Of course I'd have to see them in person first. And they do come powdercoated right?
As said, I fabricate for a living. Now to answer the questions. You could use a jig to make the bends consitent and that works 100%. We use a pro-tools.com tubing bender with degree rings and software to bend our metal, so there is no real need for a jig, get your measurements and angles and bend. A jig would help if we were making a multiple piece cage the needed to be welded together. As for the saw, you are refering to a horizontal band saw, and yes it will make angled cuts. I do not see any heim joints on that bar, but we do get them from a distributor at a fair price. Powder coating is a good way to go, and at this point we can only do about 1.5'x1.5" piece, but we are looking to update our oven for larger pieces. The most common way we would do it would be to paint them to match the car, a much cleaner look and with the right paint and clear, no real problems. In the little time we have we are working on a 4 point cage for the xB, more info on that when it gets closer to being finished.
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Originally Posted by xKEITH760x
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Just wondering, would you use a jig to make the bends consistent, and who has the machine to do it? And the saw to make the angled cuts for welding the tabs onto the bar.

If you can make some for that price, I'd buy at least 10 also, if its of the same quality and uses the same quality Heim joints and such. Of course I'd have to see them in person first. And they do come powdercoated right?
As said, I fabricate for a living. Now to answer the questions. You could use a jig to make the bends consitent and that works 100%. We use a pro-tools.com tubing bender with degree rings and software to bend our metal, so there is no real need for a jig, get your measurements and angles and bend. A jig would help if we were making a multiple piece cage the needed to be welded together. As for the saw, you are refering to a horizontal band saw, and yes it will make angled cuts. I do not see any heim joints on that bar, but we do get them from a distributor at a fair price. Powder coating is a good way to go, and at this point we can only do about 1.5'x1.5" piece, but we are looking to update our oven for larger pieces. The most common way we would do it would be to paint them to match the car, a much cleaner look and with the right paint and clear, no real problems. In the little time we have we are working on a 4 point cage for the xB, more info on that when it gets closer to being finished.
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Sooo you can't make them for $200 is what your saying with teh specs stated.
Old Jan 29, 2006 | 02:49 AM
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xB rollbar on a harness bar thread, shameless plug, shady business tactic is all i see

i still want to see your $200 harness bar, make sure it looks like the one pictures above with the same RACE PROVEN quality we are offering

thanx
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Originally Posted by xKEITH760x
Originally Posted by squirrel
Just wondering, would you use a jig to make the bends consistent, and who has the machine to do it? And the saw to make the angled cuts for welding the tabs onto the bar.

If you can make some for that price, I'd buy at least 10 also, if its of the same quality and uses the same quality Heim joints and such. Of course I'd have to see them in person first. And they do come powdercoated right?
As said, I fabricate for a living. Now to answer the questions. You could use a jig to make the bends consitent and that works 100%. We use a pro-tools.com tubing bender with degree rings and software to bend our metal, so there is no real need for a jig, get your measurements and angles and bend. A jig would help if we were making a multiple piece cage the needed to be welded together. As for the saw, you are refering to a horizontal band saw, and yes it will make angled cuts. I do not see any heim joints on that bar, but we do get them from a distributor at a fair price. Powder coating is a good way to go, and at this point we can only do about 1.5'x1.5" piece, but we are looking to update our oven for larger pieces. The most common way we would do it would be to paint them to match the car, a much cleaner look and with the right paint and clear, no real problems. In the little time we have we are working on a 4 point cage for the xB, more info on that when it gets closer to being finished.
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Keith,

The one I have IS powdercoated and DOES have Heim joints.

See:



And what fabricating I know how to do, I usually have some sort of jig to make sure everything is square or lines up properly.

And its not good to threadjack a site sponsor!





And you can search my posts about why cages are not good for xB that are driven on the street.
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Sorry I didn't catch that second picture, my computer from time to time has a problem loading JPEGS. Your Bar looks good. Just trying to state the facts on the prices of material to build one. End of jacking. sorry.
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