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04-30-2006, 03:53 PM
Just curious to see who has seen it and what reactions are. I'm still not sure whether I want to see it or not, being a NYer still a little too fresh in my mind. Just the trailers made my skin crawl.
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View Full Version : United 93 iRiSh_xB 04-30-2006, 03:53 PM Just curious to see who has seen it and what reactions are. I'm still not sure whether I want to see it or not, being a NYer still a little too fresh in my mind. Just the trailers made my skin crawl. scion_tC 04-30-2006, 04:10 PM i saw it. def a powerful movie. if my g/f wasnt with me I think I would have cried, i did shed a few tears in the end. I thought the movie did a good job of portraying the events of that day, we all know what happened but I personally did not know how confused the military was on that day. The movie will def give u chills, and at times it might be hard to watch... bbcrud 05-01-2006, 02:30 AM Haven't seen it and don't know that I will. I'm still mad about it. But I know it epitomizes true American spirit and, I hope, the families of those portrayed understand what a bright-spot in history their losses created. Kilo6_one 05-01-2006, 02:33 AM id like to see it, i hear it was not overtly "hollywood" I saw somewhere, i think it was dateline, the producers got the ok from every family member who was related to those who died, and he said that if even one family member had objected that the project would have been scrapped. Ill i will say is that i hope alot of that proceeds of this film go to the families, and not some producers wallet. bbcrud 05-01-2006, 02:41 AM id like to see it, i hear it was not overtly "hollywood" I saw somewhere, i think it was dateline, the producers got the ok from every family member who was related to those who died, and he said that if even one family member had objected that the project would have been scrapped. Ill i will say is that i hope alot of that proceeds of this film go to the families, and not some producers wallet. Part of the proceeds, from the opening weekend only, get donated. If you want to donate without seeing the movie, you can go here. (http://www.familiesofseptember11.org/donate.aspx) IbRtC 05-01-2006, 02:46 AM I saw the movie and I cant say I recommend spending the money and have it make you fell upset and depressed on a Friday or Saturday night. As for the movie, I think its all a lie but that's just my opinion. It does show the mass confusion amoung the FAA, Military, and Both Boston and New York Center who are in charge of monitoring east coast air traffic. I just dont think that plane went down because of anything anybody on that plane did. rolstc 05-02-2006, 05:59 AM is it the same plot as the movie on a&e, flight 93 ??? HeathenBrewing 05-02-2006, 08:37 PM .... As for the movie, I think its all a lie but that's just my opinion..... Flight 93 movie = Propaganda at its finest! I snickered out loud numerous times. The movie is so incredibly rediculous. This movie was not made to remember the families of those that have died, it was made to fuel our hatred of Muslims and feed the war. It was confirmed, that day, that Flight 93 landed safely in Hopkins Airport near Cleveland, OH as reported by Liz Foreman, of the channel 9 news staff for Cincinnati, OH; this report was produced at exactly 11:43:57 on 09/11/2001. The plane was moved to a secure area of the airport and was evacuated. This wasnt only confirmed by the news staff, but first hand by Mayor Michael White as well. Strangely enough, this story was removed from channel 9 news site (WCPO-TV). bbcrud 05-03-2006, 02:01 AM .... As for the movie, I think its all a lie but that's just my opinion..... Flight 93 movie = Propaganda at its finest! I snickered out loud numerous times. The movie is so incredibly rediculous. This movie was not made to remember the families of those that have died, it was made to fuel our hatred of Muslims and feed the war. It was confirmed, that day, that Flight 93 landed safely in Hopkins Airport near Cleveland, OH as reported by Liz Foreman, of the channel 9 news staff for Cincinnati, OH; this report was produced at exactly 11:43:57 on 09/11/2001. The plane was moved to a secure area of the airport and was evacuated. This wasnt only confirmed by the news staff, but first hand by Mayor Michael White as well. Strangely enough, this story was removed from channel 9 news site (WCPO-TV). WOW Somebody tell the Democrats! Quick! THansenite 05-03-2006, 03:55 PM .... As for the movie, I think its all a lie but that's just my opinion..... Flight 93 movie = Propaganda at its finest! I snickered out loud numerous times. The movie is so incredibly rediculous. This movie was not made to remember the families of those that have died, it was made to fuel our hatred of Muslims and feed the war. It was confirmed, that day, that Flight 93 landed safely in Hopkins Airport near Cleveland, OH as reported by Liz Foreman, of the channel 9 news staff for Cincinnati, OH; this report was produced at exactly 11:43:57 on 09/11/2001. The plane was moved to a secure area of the airport and was evacuated. This wasnt only confirmed by the news staff, but first hand by Mayor Michael White as well. Strangely enough, this story was removed from channel 9 news site (WCPO-TV). Are you one of the people that think we didn't land on the moon either and the moon landing was filmed in a studio? bbcrud 05-03-2006, 05:56 PM Are you one of the people that think we didn't land on the moon either and the moon landing was filmed in a studio? :doh: You mean we really DID go to the moon? :rofl: HeathenBrewing 05-03-2006, 07:42 PM Are you one of the people that think we didn't land on the moon either and the moon landing was filmed in a studio? Hardy-har. Keep up the ignorance. You will reap what you sow. Chillaxin206 05-03-2006, 09:49 PM whoa, this thread took a drastic turn. Cmec2004 05-03-2006, 09:58 PM i have seen both made for tv movies on flight 93 and so i dont plan on seein this one. please go here www.question911.com it has given me a whole new perspective on the 911 things that have happen and can kinda make you think twice. I mean what if this is a consersacy theory thorough our government. watchin the vidoes/seeing the audio gave me a whole new look check it out reppindaTC 05-03-2006, 10:37 PM i have seen both made for tv movies on flight 93 and so i dont plan on seein this one. please go here www.question911.com it has given me a whole new perspective on the 911 things that have happen and can kinda make you think twice. I mean what if this is a consersacy theory thorough our government. watchin the vidoes/seeing the audio gave me a whole new look check it out that site has been proven to be a hoax.. if you think our goverment had anything to do with this ur nuts plain and simple... to get on topic yes i saw the movie and it was amazing.. after the movie was done people just sat there it was truely amazing TRDtC480 05-03-2006, 11:21 PM I thought the movie was pretty good. Although some of it wasnt true but oh well. It hit quite a few people in the theatre though. Cmec2004 05-03-2006, 11:29 PM How has that site been proven look at the facts... look at the videos You can clearly see the building being blown up b4 the WTC falls down. The pentagon clearly you can see a smaller whole than that would be a a huge passenger plane, flight 93 no remains, no nothing impossible there was a white plan passing over by right b4 hand only 40 ft off the ground b4 that happened. How is that impossible? SO-CAL_TC 05-04-2006, 12:26 AM How has that site been proven look at the facts... look at the videos You can clearly see the building being blown up b4 the WTC falls down. The pentagon clearly you can see a smaller whole than that would be a a huge passenger plane, flight 93 no remains, no nothing impossible there was a white plan passing over by right b4 hand only 40 ft off the ground b4 that happened. How is that impossible? :clap: Cmec2004 05-04-2006, 01:15 AM what are you clappin at? that im right reppindaTC 05-04-2006, 02:09 AM How has that site been proven look at the facts... look at the videos You can clearly see the building being blown up b4 the WTC falls down. The pentagon clearly you can see a smaller whole than that would be a a huge passenger plane, flight 93 no remains, no nothing impossible there was a white plan passing over by right b4 hand only 40 ft off the ground b4 that happened. How is that impossible? you ever hear of editing films... yeah thats what that site did.. and it is possiable for a place to crash and have no remains.. but remeber here its the goverment that is handeling this so they are a little tight lipped about things. I cant belive people think our own goverment is covering something. Being in the military thats an insult to me that we are fighting a way for people who belive that 9-11 was fake Cmec2004 05-04-2006, 11:51 AM props for being in the military and all not sayin at all the govt is responsible, i know there are slips in this movie and all its just weird when you watch some of this stuff. Thanks for the discussion reppindaTC 05-04-2006, 01:47 PM no problem but it just makes me mad that there are some people out there who actually belive that this was all a set up.. what goverment would kill that many people just to start another war and have even more people die? its all good to each their own i guess i didnt want to sound mean about it i just have a strong stance HeathenBrewing 05-04-2006, 03:03 PM .. what goverment would kill that many people just to start another war and have even more people die? its all good to each their own i guess i didnt want to sound mean about it i just have a strong stance Well, the U.S. government has planned on it in the past (Northwoods). Why would they be above it now? reppindaTC 05-04-2006, 03:05 PM so you are saying our goverment is going to kill off our army members for some unknown reason.. i dont buy it.. our army is already streched out to the max as in.. In times like these where iran is going nuclear i dont think its such a good idea to just kill off us armed forces members just for the hell of it HeathenBrewing 05-04-2006, 03:07 PM so you are saying our goverment is going to kill off our army members for some unknown reason.. i dont buy it.. our army is already streched out to the max as in.. In times like these where iran is going nuclear i dont think its such a good idea to just kill off us armed forces members just for the hell of it Umm, read my post again. That is NOT what I said. DjCarlitoRoc 05-04-2006, 03:36 PM this movie's pure fiction. dead men tell no tales. everytime i fly, i try to use my cell phone. it always cuts off way before the plane is even at its cruising altitude. try it. those people couldnt make any calls. anyone who believes that planes can crash and turn into pixy dust, is an invalid. YourNameHere 05-04-2006, 09:31 PM i havnt seen it yet but the one review site i saw gave it 97%..cause really..what critic has the ballz to say it was a bad movie!? i may see it this weekend, but it was said, i dont want to get bummed out on a fri or sat night. maybe a sunday afternoon, i mean im already bummed 2morrow is monday. Cmec2004 05-04-2006, 09:38 PM What are we in Iraq for anyways? Why fight for something that we dotn know what were fighting for. My friend was there he says there just there to handle situations nothign big. Oil maybe who kows but back to the topic how can we not have found Osama Bin Laden yet maybe cause we dont want too HeathenBrewing 05-04-2006, 10:48 PM Some basic questions reporters aren't asking. Why? 1) The current official story is that 3 F-16 fighters had been scrambled at 9:24AM and were airborne over Washington D.C. by 9:40AM. AWACS and a Tanker were scrambled also. These pilots saw the Pentagon on fire, the President had OK'd a shootdown, the Secret Service had advised the pilots to protect the White House at all costs, and Flight 93 was the only aircraft off course - heading toward D.C. - with it's transponder off. Flight 93 crashed at 10:06AM only 125 miles from D.C. and 3 nuclear power plants were in between Flight 93 and D.C. 2) Why did Air Traffic Controllers in a Nashua Telegraph article report an F-16 was circling Flight 93 and was in visual range at the time of crash - and why does the Government currently DENY that? 3) What caused an entire engine and human remains to be found a considerable distance from the main crash site? 4) How did metal scraps, clothing and garbage bags full other debris gathered by residents and turned over to the FBI float on the breeze from a 35 foot deep muddy hole through wet, muddy fields for between 2.5 and 8 miles in 9 knot(10.4 mph) winds as the NTSB has declared? Why hasn't this happened in any other airline crashes that did not have mid-air traumas? 5) What was the mysterious white jet trailing Flight 93 before the crash, and witnessed by so many just after the crash? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Not only do we have a right to know, we have a duty to know what our Government is doing in our name... If there's a criticsm to be made today, it's that the press isn't doing enough to put the pressure on the government to provide information." Walter Cronkite - On the 3-28-02 Media Matters Show on PBS. "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". - Ben Franklin Cmec2004 05-04-2006, 10:54 PM Fires happen all the time.... WTC 7 trhe small building falls and calapses being only the 3rd building in history to ever fall bc of a fire. The first two were WTC 1 and 2. Only after an hr of burning. A fired burned for more than 17 hours in Philadelphia and yet did not calapses (i cant spell) Im not anit govt at all but some thuings dont add up like especially the white jet following flight 93 that numerous people witnessed HeathenBrewing 05-04-2006, 10:56 PM Fires happen all the time.... WTC 7 trhe small building falls and calapses being only the 3rd building in history to ever fall bc of a fire. The first two were WTC 1 and 2. Only after an hr of burning. A fired burned for more than 17 hours in Philadelphia and yet did not calapses (i cant spell) Im not anit govt at all but some thuings dont add up like especially the white jet following flight 93 that numerous people witnessed What does that have to do with Flight 93? Cmec2004 05-04-2006, 11:01 PM doesnt more of a conspiracy theory HeathenBrewing 05-04-2006, 11:04 PM doesnt more of a conspiracy theory What? There is already a thread on SL regarding the WTC buildings. Lets try to keep this thread about Flight 93. When too many things get mentioned, we lose sight of the original topic. Thanks. rolstc 05-04-2006, 11:36 PM KILL OSAMA !!! :come: thats my theory. HeathenBrewing 05-05-2006, 03:14 PM KILL OSAMA !!! :come: thats my theory. And what a well thought out theory it is. :rofl: Why would America want to kill Osama? They created him. The US along with Saudia Arabia give him and his resistance $6 BILLION (with a B) US dollars, and this was 1980's dollars at that. And this is just what they will admit publicly. ''The camps, hidden in the steep mountains and mile-deep valleys of Paktia province, were the place where all seven ranking Afghan resistance leaders maintained underground headquarters and clandestine weapons stocks during their bitter and ultimately successful war against Soviet troops from Dec. 1979 to February 1989, according to American intelligence veterans…The Afghan resistance was backed by the intelligence services of the United States and Saudi Arabia...[and this camp represents] ‘the last word in NATO engineering techniques.’" (NY Times, 8/24/98, p.A1 & A7. ) "Some of the same warriors who fought the Soviets with the CIA’s help are now fighting under Mr. bin Laden’s banner." (ibid., p.A1) When the US openly supported bin Laden and friends, they were give a label ("resistance fighters") so they were ok. Now they have been given a new label ("terrorists") and thus they are transformed. The US government is absolved of guilt because the people it supported in the past werent these terrorists it is bombing today, they were those resistance fighters. Amazing. Remember that during the 80s our leaders swore bin Laden and friends were good guys: "resistance fighters." Wasn't that a lie? If the government was lying about them then, why couldn't it be lying about them now? Lets do a little imagining. Lets imagine that bin Laden et al are still CIA employees. Could it be that the missile attack was not intended to destroy bin Laden or his supporters? Could it be the attack was intended to build respect for bin Laden among Muslims who oppose the US government? To lend him credibility as a serious opponent of US domination? Is his new job to siphon Arab anger into regressive Fundamentalist movements and thereby destabilize secular Muslim societies which might resist U.S. control? After all, Islamic Fundamentalists have proven themselves the most effective enemies of independent-minded governments. This is precisely why the U.S. created an Islamic Fundamentalist proxy army in Afghanistan in the first place. And there is evidence the CIA is doing the same thing today in Algeria - covertly supporting a jihad (Islamic holy war) aimed at disrupting a secular Muslim society not under US control. And/or is bin Ladens new assignment perhaps to be a bogey-man of convenience whom the US government can link to any government it wishes to bomb? Does this sound crazy? Maybe it does at that, but is it any crazier than the admitted fact that the US gave these vicious terrorists more than $6 billion in the first place? Could it be that the lunatics are indeed in control of the asylum? BSP_5c10n 05-05-2006, 04:46 PM Which is exactly why we haven't found bin Laden yet. The government doesn't WANT to find bin Laden so they turn our attention to Iraq. Bush's answer to why we haven't found bin Laden: "He's hiding." :doh: HeathenBrewing 05-05-2006, 08:39 PM Which is exactly why we haven't found bin Laden yet. The government doesn't WANT to find bin Laden so they turn our attention to Iraq. Bush's answer to why we haven't found bin Laden: "He's hiding." :doh: Bush is more concerned with eliminating the Bill of Rights than finding Osama. YourNameHere 05-05-2006, 10:27 PM i will give bush one thing...he has balls. to know that 7 out of 10 ppl dont like you, and then to still go out in public and make speeches...that takes balls. im also impressed he hasnt been shot at yet. as for bin laden...im sure he has been cfound and shipped off to a nice tropical island somewhere where no one ill really find him... HeathenBrewing 05-05-2006, 10:43 PM i will give bush one thing...he has balls. to know that 7 out of 10 ppl dont like you, and then to still go out in public and make speeches...that takes balls. im also impressed he hasnt been shot at yet.... Hows that? Um yeah, it really takes "balls" to read off a piece of paper that someone has prepared for you. Gall is more like it. Have you EVER seen him (or any other recent president for that matter) say anything in public that they were not reading off a piece of paper? How does it take balls to read someone elses words? That shows me how little power the pres actually has. Now I would say he had balls if he just gave a speech off the top of his head. I would pay good money to hear that speech. HeathenBrewing 05-05-2006, 10:45 PM as for bin laden...im sure he has been cfound and shipped off to a nice tropical island somewhere where no one ill really find him... I suppose its possible. I already gave my opinion as to what I think he is up to. Cmec2004 05-06-2006, 02:11 AM As for my opionion i am at mixed feelings on truly is this guy really a scape goat? burkpe 05-07-2006, 12:26 PM This is my problem Us Air flight 427 crashed in Aliquippa Pa in 1994 it rolled, dove and hit the ground at like 400 miles per hour it fell from 5-6000 feet and you can see seats, fusalage and other debris of the plane. Not to mention this plane was a boeing 737 a much smaller aircraft that 93. with the wreckage of flight 93 there is no visible debris I don't buy it with all do respect something happened to the victims of that flight I don't know what but I don't beleive what happened is what they are telling us word for word. with that said I'll remember the victims of 93 jjjosh41 05-08-2006, 03:46 AM I havent seen the movie yet but I hope to ASAP. Hoax, lies, coverup, conspiracy, terrorism, whatever it was it is a terrable thing that no person should have to go through and I hope the families of everyone effected by 9/11 can someday find happyness in their lives again. And there is my serious moment for the day. Scott17 05-08-2006, 04:05 AM I remember watching the news live and distinctly remember a reporter stating that the plane was shot down by the military and later there was no mention of this again. Later that day I was speaking on the phone to a friend in Germany and he said the news reports there said the military shot down the plane. I really think the military shot the plane down to avoid any further disaster. I don't blame them for that at all under the circumstances but it would be better to just have the truth. BSP_5c10n 05-08-2006, 04:15 PM Have you EVER seen him (or any other recent president for that matter) say anything in public that they were not reading off a piece of paper? How does it take balls to read someone elses words? That shows me how little power the pres actually has. Now I would say he had balls if he just gave a speech off the top of his head. I would pay good money to hear that speech. Ha I've seen him plenty of times try to give a speech without looking at the paper too much. It's a riot. reppindaTC 05-16-2006, 07:53 PM http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html for all the people out there who belive its a hoax.. proves you wrong YourNameHere 05-16-2006, 08:29 PM sorry if my "balls" statement was miss understood...its hard to convey emotion through the net. uum let me try again...maybe balls isnt the right word. i think ignorance might fit better or maybe ever arrogance. If he can walk out infront of millions of people and give a “speech” and believe 100% of whatver he is saying that is something…idk what “it” is…but what ever “it” is he has a lot of it. (whats he approval rating at 33%? How do you get out of bed knowing that many ppl don’t like you. Hell im sure of those 33% most don’t like him but have money invested in him so they have to like him) im sure he could give a speech saying that grass is blue and the sky is green and mean ever single word of it…and then somebody over at fox news will find a picture somewhere of some rare grass that on the 2nd tues of the 5th week of may turn blue and because of the northern lights the sky will be green….i cant wait until the next election. Who ever wins I don’t really care…im sure carrot top could run this country better….. trdsparks 05-16-2006, 09:26 PM I haven't seen the movie either and I probably won't. Personally all i see is a way for Hollywood to profit off of the misfortune of other people. Yeah they say they're donating some of the money to the families but I seriously doubt it's going to be a huge chunk of the profits. I mean look at the Red Cross they collected over $500M and they weren't trying to come off with any of it. There is so much stuff that we aren't being told it's not funny. I doubt we even know 10% of what really happened. I know I remember a lot of the news reports from those 1st 3 days and I know there were a lot of things that got reported once and then removed. CNN repeats everything 100X a day and it's scares me when I hear something once and thats it. That says cover up to me. IMO the U.S. Government doesn't want to find Bin Laden. Like HeathenBrewing said they created him so why would they be looking for him. I;m still trying to figure out why we're really in the middle east. I mean I know why we originally went over then was to find Bin Laden but we never did that and all that really happened was the capture of Sadaam. But the funny thing is we weren't looking for him but it looks like bush was. Truthfully until we get a new persident and some people in places that actually know what they are doing we'll never know the truth. Cmec2004 05-16-2006, 10:05 PM im not sure if anyoen saw the new footage released today abotu the plan hittin the pentagon ut it shows the plane hitting the pentagon however why show this tape now and all you see is somwhat a nose of a plane than BAM fire ball seems fishy HeathenBrewing 05-16-2006, 10:27 PM im not sure if anyoen saw the new footage released today abotu the plan hittin the pentagon ut it shows the plane hitting the pentagon however why show this tape now and all you see is somwhat a nose of a plane than BAM fire ball seems fishy Ive seen the stills, but there is still not any concrete proof either way. I suppose if the FBI REALLY wanted to put an end to the issue, they would release the videos of the Pentagon attack that were taken by security cameras on the roof of a nearby Sheraton Hotel and a gas station, both of which had a clear sight-line to the side of the Pentagon that was hit. These tapes were confiscated by the FBI within minutes of the attack according to a Washington Times news report. In another report, this one from the Richmond Times-Dispatch in December 2001, the owner of the gas station was interviewed. He says the gas stations security cameras are close enough to the Pentagon to have recorded the moment of impact. "I've never seen what the pictures looked like," he said. "The FBI was here within minutes and took the film." . http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/12/1211_wirepentagon.html HeathenBrewing 05-16-2006, 10:46 PM Original FOIA request for the FBI to release the confiscated tapes: http://www.flight77.info/foia.jpg FBIs response: http://www.flight77.info/newresponse.jpg Appeal to DOJ: http://www.flight77.info/appealnew.jpg DOJs response: http://www.flight77.info/pics/appresp.jpg Page 1 of lawsuit to force the release of said tapes under the FOIA: http://www.flight77.info/pics/1.jpg Page 2: http://www.flight77.info/pics/2.jpg Page 3: http://www.flight77.info/pics/mid.jpg PAge 4: http://www.flight77.info/pics/seclast.jpg Page 5: http://www.flight77.info/pics/last.jpg reppindaTC 05-16-2006, 11:05 PM the goverment doenst want the people to know what goes on we couldnt handle the truth AmluxTRD 05-16-2006, 11:06 PM Going to the real worthy topic Great movie :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: even when I do not support anything coming from Hollywood. I make my own opinion Cmec2004 05-16-2006, 11:10 PM I didnt read every single world in all those documents because it was kinda of hard to read how did thsee documents leak? reppindaTC 05-16-2006, 11:11 PM leak lol i bet someone on the inside wanted them to get out Cmec2004 05-16-2006, 11:11 PM the goverment doenst want the people to know what goes on we couldnt handle the truth Well whats really going on? I mean that tape released today they say is frame by frame theres no way possible it is. We can handle a cover up HeathenBrewing 05-16-2006, 11:13 PM I didnt read every single world in all those documents because it was kinda of hard to read how did thsee documents leak? Enlarge the page fully. Hold you mouse over the document and a small box with arrows coming out of it will appear in the bottom right corner. Click on it and it will magnify the document. HeathenBrewing 05-16-2006, 11:15 PM leak lol i bet someone on the inside wanted them to get out These are all publicly available documents. No big secret involved. reppindaTC 05-16-2006, 11:15 PM the goverment doenst want the people to know what goes on we couldnt handle the truth Well whats really going on? I mean that tape released today they say is frame by frame theres no way possible it is. We can handle a cover up I dont think our country being in the state that we are with all the current issues could handle if anything at all was a cover up being exposed.. its to risky HeathenBrewing 05-16-2006, 11:18 PM Well whats really going on? Only time will tell. The important point to remember is: REMEMBER! Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. My opinion is no, the American public can NOT handle a cover up of this magnitude. So many fractured egos, so many illusions would vanish, POOF!, just like that. reppindaTC 05-16-2006, 11:20 PM Well whats really going on? Only time will tell. The important point to remember is: REMEMBER! Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. My opinion is no, the American public can NOT handle a cover up of this magnitude. So many fractured egos, so many illusions would vanish, POOF!, just like that. i agree |