props for being in the military and all not sayin at all the govt is responsible, i know there are slips in this movie and all its just weird when you watch some of this stuff. Thanks for the discussion

 

no problem but it just makes me mad that there are some people out there who actually belive that this was all a set up.. what goverment would kill that many people just to start another war and have even more people die? its all good to each their own i guess i didnt want to sound mean about it i just have a strong stance

 

Well, the U.S. government has planned on it in the past (Northwoods). Why would they be above it now?

 

so you are saying our goverment is going to kill off our army members for some unknown reason.. i dont buy it.. our army is already streched out to the max as in.. In times like these where iran is going nuclear i dont think its such a good idea to just kill off us armed forces members just for the hell of it

 

Umm, read my post again.

That is NOT what I said.

 

this movie's pure fiction. dead men tell no tales.

everytime i fly, i try to use my cell phone. it always cuts off way before the plane is even at its cruising altitude. try it.
those people couldnt make any calls.

anyone who believes that planes can crash and turn into pixy dust, is an invalid.

 

i havnt seen it yet but the one review site i saw gave it 97%..cause really..what critic has the ballz to say it was a bad movie!? i may see it this weekend, but it was said, i dont want to get bummed out on a fri or sat night. maybe a sunday afternoon, i mean im already bummed 2morrow is monday.

 

What are we in Iraq for anyways? Why fight for something that we dotn know what were fighting for. My friend was there he says there just there to handle situations nothign big. Oil maybe who kows but back to the topic how can we not have found Osama Bin Laden yet maybe cause we dont want too

 

Some basic questions reporters aren't asking. Why?

1) The current official story is that 3 F-16 fighters had been scrambled at 9:24AM and were airborne over Washington D.C. by 9:40AM. AWACS and a Tanker were scrambled also. These pilots saw the Pentagon on fire, the President had OK'd a shootdown, the Secret Service had advised the pilots to protect the White House at all costs, and Flight 93 was the only aircraft off course - heading toward D.C. - with it's transponder off. Flight 93 crashed at 10:06AM only 125 miles from D.C. and 3 nuclear power plants were in between Flight 93 and D.C.

2) Why did Air Traffic Controllers in a Nashua Telegraph article report an F-16 was circling Flight 93 and was in visual range at the time of crash - and why does the Government currently DENY that?

3) What caused an entire engine and human remains to be found a considerable distance from the main crash site?

4) How did metal scraps, clothing and garbage bags full other debris gathered by residents and turned over to the FBI float on the breeze from a 35 foot deep muddy hole through wet, muddy fields for between 2.5 and 8 miles in 9 knot(10.4 mph) winds as the NTSB has declared? Why hasn't this happened in any other airline crashes that did not have mid-air traumas?

5) What was the mysterious white jet trailing Flight 93 before the crash, and witnessed by so many just after the crash?

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"Not only do we have a right to know, we have a duty to know what our Government is doing in our name... If there's a criticsm to be made today, it's that the press isn't doing enough to put the pressure on the government to provide information."
Walter Cronkite - On the 3-28-02 Media Matters Show on PBS.

"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". - Ben Franklin

 

Fires happen all the time.... WTC 7 trhe small building falls and calapses being only the 3rd building in history to ever fall bc of a fire. The first two were WTC 1 and 2. Only after an hr of burning. A fired burned for more than 17 hours in Philadelphia and yet did not calapses (i cant spell) Im not anit govt at all but some thuings dont add up like especially the white jet following flight 93 that numerous people witnessed

 

What does that have to do with Flight 93?

 

doesnt more of a conspiracy theory

 

What?

There is already a thread on SL regarding the WTC buildings.

Lets try to keep this thread about Flight 93. When too many things get mentioned, we lose sight of the original topic.

Thanks.

 

KILL OSAMA !!!

thats my theory.

 

And what a well thought out theory it is.

Why would America want to kill Osama? They created him. The US along with Saudia Arabia give him and his resistance $6 BILLION (with a B) US dollars, and this was 1980's dollars at that. And this is just what they will admit publicly.

''The camps, hidden in the steep mountains and mile-deep valleys of Paktia province, were the place where all seven ranking Afghan resistance leaders maintained underground headquarters and clandestine weapons stocks during their bitter and ultimately successful war against Soviet troops from Dec. 1979 to February 1989, according to American intelligence veterans…The Afghan resistance was backed by the intelligence services of the United States and Saudi Arabia...[and this camp represents] ‘the last word in NATO engineering techniques.’" (NY Times, 8/24/98, p.A1 & A7. )

"Some of the same warriors who fought the Soviets with the CIA’s help are now fighting under Mr. bin Laden’s banner." (ibid., p.A1)

When the US openly supported bin Laden and friends, they were give a label ("resistance fighters") so they were ok. Now they have been given a new label ("terrorists") and thus they are transformed. The US government is absolved of guilt because the people it supported in the past werent these terrorists it is bombing today, they were those resistance fighters. Amazing.

Remember that during the 80s our leaders swore bin Laden and friends were good guys: "resistance fighters." Wasn't that a lie? If the government was lying about them then, why couldn't it be lying about them now?

Lets do a little imagining. Lets imagine that bin Laden et al are still CIA employees. Could it be that the missile attack was not intended to destroy bin Laden or his supporters? Could it be the attack was intended to build respect for bin Laden among Muslims who oppose the US government? To lend him credibility as a serious opponent of US domination? Is his new job to siphon Arab anger into regressive Fundamentalist movements and thereby destabilize secular Muslim societies which might resist U.S. control? After all, Islamic Fundamentalists have proven themselves the most effective enemies of independent-minded governments. This is precisely why the U.S. created an Islamic Fundamentalist proxy army in Afghanistan in the first place. And there is evidence the CIA is doing the same thing today in Algeria - covertly supporting a jihad (Islamic holy war) aimed at disrupting a secular Muslim society not under US control.

And/or is bin Ladens new assignment perhaps to be a bogey-man of convenience whom the US government can link to any government it wishes to bomb?
Does this sound crazy? Maybe it does at that, but is it any crazier than the admitted fact that the US gave these vicious terrorists more than $6 billion in the first place?

Could it be that the lunatics are indeed in control of the asylum?

 

Which is exactly why we haven't found bin Laden yet. The government doesn't WANT to find bin Laden so they turn our attention to Iraq.

Bush's answer to why we haven't found bin Laden:

"He's hiding."

 

Bush is more concerned with eliminating the Bill of Rights than finding Osama.

 

i will give bush one thing...he has *****. to know that 7 out of 10 ppl dont like you, and then to still go out in public and make speeches...that takes *****. im also impressed he hasnt been shot at yet.

as for bin laden...im sure he has been cfound and shipped off to a nice tropical island somewhere where no one ill really find him...

 

Hows that?

Um yeah, it really takes "*****" to read off a piece of paper that someone has prepared for you. Gall is more like it.

Have you EVER seen him (or any other recent president for that matter) say anything in public that they were not reading off a piece of paper? How does it take ***** to read someone elses words? That shows me how little power the pres actually has.

Now I would say he had ***** if he just gave a speech off the top of his head. I would pay good money to hear that speech.

 

I suppose its possible.

I already gave my opinion as to what I think he is up to.