a mini matrix. no you don'y currently have a mini matrix. the new xa/xa replacement will have 1.8 , get the same or better milegae , be a lil longer , and lower , and not so tall overall.

rumored to be on the new corolla platform.


the xa should fare much better than the new imo wrong direction xb replacement.

hmm... 2zz =D doh same gas mileage =(

As long as it has more power feels connected to the road, and doesn't have drive by wire, I'll be happy...

oh and can't look so ugly where even a mother couldn't love it...

I'm itching to get another car, so hopefully it's released soon...

no not 2zz , it'll be the 1zz.

so far so good......
it sounds like a good direction then.

intresting

sexy? i want pics...my xA is almost 4 years old duuude. one of our training reps said the release is gonna be early next year.....i hope that's true.

have anyone seen r have images pff the xd?

No images yet of the xD--just the xB mule that has been on the site for some time.

I'm amazed some of you guys are already wanting a new car. 3 and 4 year old cars should typically still be in excellent shape.

my rides are in great shape, i just like new things.

have anyone seen r have images pff the xd?

As of right now all of us who have seen the new xB and xD were sworn to secrecy until their car show debut. It sux I know but SCION wants to maximize the impact they will have at the unvceiling. But trust me when I tell you they both will not disappoint. :bow:

^^ yeah.. i got really jealous when a friend of mine got the see the new cars IN PERSON!... grrr.... but sworn to secrecy it has... and until they reveal it..

all we can do is wait.

and pleaseeee... dear GOD.... don't believe any stupid pictures out there.. or photoshopped pieces of junk... let time reveal itself.

^^ yeah.. i got really jealous when a friend of mine got the see the new cars IN PERSON!... grrr.... but sworn to secrecy it has... and until they reveal it..

all we can do is wait.

and pleaseeee... dear GOD.... don't believe any stupid pictures out there.. or photoshopped pieces of junk... let time reveal itself.

Thats the truth. don't beleive any pics you have seen because this thing is unlike anything Ive ever seen. But it will definately blow your socks off.
FYI also I was lead to beleive by some influential peeps that the FUSE was a test concept for the next tC. sweeeeeeet!!!!!!!

The Fuse is a Fusion of 4 new Sport Coupe Ideas for 09

Anyone know when they'll lift the cover off the next xB and xD?

There is spectulation that it will be in Miami in December or January.............

December 16 in Miami.

Salesman at Scion Carlsbad said that one of the new models is rumored to have scissor doors.

Salesman at Scion Carlsbad said that one of the new models is rumored to have scissor doors.

Yeah...rriigghhtt. Don't trust evrything your salsmen says. I was at a Scion dealership about a month ago and the salsmen tryed to convince me that it takes a long time to get a Scion because they put all the accessorys you want on either at the factory or at port even though I know for a fact they do it at the dealership. He tried to tell me that's what they do in other states he's been to also. In his small little world there were also no RS3 xA's even though someone had already posted pics of their RS3 here on SL. Moral of the story: don't trust your salsmen because they most likely know less than you do.

I 100% agree that they won't build a factory Scion with scissor doors.

However, they do put options on at the port. You can get additional options put on at the dealer when you buy the car, but if you tell them what you want before it comes into the port, all (or most) of the options are installed at the port.

They don't put any of the options (other than manual/auto and side impact airbags) on at the factory though.

Salesman at Scion Carlsbad said that one of the new models is rumored to have scissor doors.

Yeah...rriigghhtt. Don't trust evrything your salsmen says. I was at a Scion dealership about a month ago and the salsmen tryed to convince me that it takes a long time to get a Scion because they put all the accessorys you want on either at the factory or at port even though I know for a fact they do it at the dealership. He tried to tell me that's what they do in other states he's been to also. In his small little world there were also no RS3 xA's even though someone had already posted pics of their RS3 here on SL. Moral of the story: don't trust your salsmen because they most likely know less than you do.

Who said I trust 'em? :)

the salsmen tryed to convince me that it takes a long time to get a Scion because they put all the accessorys you want on either at the factory or at port even though I know for a fact they do it at the dealership.

You can indeed get accessories put on at the factory or at port. It depends on how the dealer wants to operate. It makes a big difference if someone is planning to lease, because unless the added accessories/equipment comes on the car out of the factory, you can't residualise it.

He was trying to tell me they put them on in the port or factory IN JAPAN... So if you for example ordered cup holder LED's they'd put them on in Japan...no.

He was trying to tell me they put them on in the port or factory IN JAPAN... So if you for example ordered cup holder LED's they'd put them on in Japan...no.

You can actually do that...it just takes forever. It is much quicker to get it done at port in the US, so I seriously doubt any dealer in the US does it as standard practice. They'd deliver about two Scions a year. :D