Hey everyone, my injen cold air intake comes in today. Should i buy a hydroshield for it just in case, or do I not have to worry about water? Also, if i should get one, can i install the hydroshield after i put in the intake?

wats the hydoshield?
how much?

i was planning on getting the aem bypass for my injen intake.

which is better, hydroshield or aem bypass?

Get the hydroshield. I do not have one on mine and I regret it now because it is a PAIN IN THE ___ to get the shield on after you have installed the intake. You need to remove the front bumper and well again and all of that. It is a pain to do it later. I say, spend the extra 20 bucks, even if you dont think you will need it right now, install it now and not regret it later like me.

Anurok

Just dont drive in lakes and save yourself the extra $20!!!

wats better?

hydoshield or aem bypass?

My K&N came with the hydroshield and it's great. It keeps your filter cleaner for MUCH longer as well. I would highly recommend that instead of the bypass. If you're thinking of the bypass, just don't drive through a lake as was stated above. Highway driving in the rain/snow is more suitable with the hydroshield rather than the bypass.

so u would recommend the shield?

im in cali wit pot holes n stuff. if it rains, they become lil puddles.
the hydroshield will work better in puddles then the bypass?

if so, y are people constantly talkin bout the bypass and not the hydoshield?
ugh!!!

so alot of people are saying that the water doesnt effect it unless your submerged in water. so should i nbot waste the $30 ?

You also have to realize how high our filter sits and that we have an under cover splash guard. This under guard will protect the engine from a lot of water and the most your filter will see is the spray coming in from when it's raining and you're driving. To submerge our filter, you're going to have to drive into something deep enough to completely submerge that front cutout on our bumper and about another 4-5 inches past that. Our filter sits quite high. It's not right there in the open.

alrite. and u jus wrap the shield around the filter.
can i pick this up at any shop that sells the intake?

Also remember, when you drive into a pot hole, your struts will decompress and travel further to compensate. You would really have to drive into a small marsh or swamp pit to hydrolock your engine. To be extra safe, just don't remove the cut out on the bumper. That'll keep basically all the water out.

It's not a wrap. It's kind of like a stretch sock that goes over the filter. You would most likely have to order it in either online or from a speed shop. Try online. I believe Injen sells them but you can get them from K&N. You would need to measure the base of the filter (the widest point), and the length from the widest point to the top of the filter. The neck that mounts on the pipe should not have anything to do with the measurement.

You also have to realize how high our filter sits and that we have an under cover splash guard. This under guard will protect the engine from a lot of water and the most your filter will see is the spray coming in from when it's raining and you're driving. To submerge our filter, you're going to have to drive into something deep enough to completely submerge that front cutout on our bumper and about another 4-5 inches past that. Our filter sits quite high. It's not right there in the open.

In total agreement.....also i live in florida and we deal with a good amount of rain and very large puddles and i have yet to have a problem.....use common sense, if the street looks flooded....Dont drive down it.....if you see a lake or ocean drive around it.....but seriously you need a good foot and a half to even get close to the filter!!

alrite. thanx again web :clap:

but, i wont be installin my intake. a shop will. do u think they wil remove the cut out on the bumper to do the install?

If they are smart, they will just take the tire off and splash guard and go in from the side. Taking the bumper off is extra work that isn't necessary and takes about another 20-30 minutes (remove/install).

Here's a generic pic of a filter and the 2 measurements to get:
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r52/webmancorvette/measure.jpg

alrite.
thanx alot!!!

Special: Try to find someone around your area that owns a tC and installed their intake and you know them. I wouldn't take it to a shop b/c they will charge you more than it's worth. It only takes about 20 minutes if you know what you're doing.

alrite, i'll look into that.
the shop was gonna charge about 1 bill

Damn, I wish a bunch of you were over on the East coast. I help out a few people with Scions for cheap. I'd have a nice shop over here b/c i'd charge about 1/2 what everyone else charges. It's crap that shops charge so much. Utilities and stuff do cost a lot, but come on.....................100$ for an intake install? That's just bending you over. :(

Damn, I wish a bunch of you were over on the East coast. I help out a few people with Scions for cheap. I'd have a nice shop over here b/c i'd charge about 1/2 what everyone else charges. It's crap that shops charge so much. Utilities and stuff do cost a lot, but come on.....................100$ for an intake install? That's just bending you over. :(

Yeah $100 is ridiculous :nope:

It was the first mod i have done to any car period and it was pretty striaghtfoward.....you could probably do it yourself with a friend....take your time and follow the DIY here....she did a excellent job with pics and explaination
http://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=121380

tru tru.
i have a guy in my car club that im sure knos how to do it cause he add everything to his car himself (STI). but im jus scared if somethin goes wrong. it would be easier to blame the shop then to blame a person.
i dunno

I can understand that. I simply followed the DIY that came with my intake and found it quite easy. Just have to remember what splash gaurd bolt goes where when you're putting it back together. There's only 6 i think so just lay them out in the manner that they came out and it's easy. I'm installing the Injen intake and HIDs on Phillyphil06's tC this weekend. Your friend with the STI should be able to do it. It's really straight forward.

whatever you chose to do, good luck though :) Just remember that if your CEL comes on and you went to the shop, they probobly didn't disconnect the battery. Common error. Disconnect the negative for about 5 minutes and then reconnect it. Reset your windows and roof and all, but your CEL will be gone. Let your engine idle for about 5 minutes and drive it for about 20 minutes doing both normal and some fast driving. It just helps readjust the ECU from being shut down.

yea.
damn, u should take a trip out here. lol

nah, but the thing that is stoppin me is that u have to take off a tire. if it wasnt for that, i'd have him do it.
i had an 02 sentra se-r b4 the tC and he installed an aem on that wit no probs.
i guess i jus worry to much.
does the DIY come with the intake when u buy it?
like it tells u EXACTLY how to take the wheel off n stuff?

It won't tell you about the wheel and instructions for that b/c that should be common knowledge. I'm not saying that you should know though, just speaking in general.

Taking the wheel off is simple:

-Loosen the lugs off of the driver's front tire.
-Jack the car up from the center support that runs right next to the oil pan.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r52/webmancorvette/100_0615.jpg
-when you're done with the intake, place tire back on hub while car is in the air still
-put one lug at a time back on with your hands
-tighten 1 or 2 as tight as you can holding the wheel stationary and using your torque bar or tire iron
- lower car back until the tires touch (not all the way down, but enough so that it doesn't spin)
-tighten all the lug nuts to about 80-100 lbs/ft (as tight as you can with your tire iron)
-lower car, and you're done

the intake should come with instructions on how to remove the old intake and install the new one though. I am going to scan my K&N instructions and post them up later tonight on here and my other site, www.clubsciontc.com That should help a lot of people.

alrite.
i'll email this thread to myself.

thanx again for the info :bow:

NP, PM me if you have questions and maybe I can try to get some pics and write you some steps on how to help you out. :)

alrite, thanx.
im gonna order my intake tomorrow from trdsparks.
then sometime next week or the week after i myte take it to get painted. :)
so the install wont be for about another 3 weeks

but if i decide to have my friend do it, and i need help, i'll let u kno :)

sounds good..............BTW, how much is TRD sparks charging you for the INjen? they are expensive................I can find you one cheaper if you want...............brand new too...........06 or 07?

280 free shipping.
is coo. imma go with them. i said i was for the past couple of months now.

i've seen some cheaper to, but its all good.

thanx though

aight cool. Good luck

yep yep

:)

Tasha if you need help with the install just hit me up, I'd be happy to help out. It'll save you a bill as well. :-P

where are u located?
well, where is duarte?

have u installed the injen b4?

btw

HAPPY 21st
and no alcohol :P

even on surface roads you can hydrolock. When I had my 98 Eclipse i was driving at night and there was what looked to be a small puddle in the road and when i drove through it the engine stalled and hydrolocked. Ended up blowing a rod through the pan and destroyed the engine.

The bypass i dont believe is completely safe and neither is the hydroshield, but they are still good to use. The AEM bypass will not work on the Injen CAI intake without modification to the intake, I've already looked into it.

GOOD LUCK!

even on surface roads you can hydrolock. When I had my 98 Eclipse i was driving at night and there was what looked to be a small puddle in the road and when i drove through it the engine stalled and hydrolocked. Ended up blowing a rod through the pan and destroyed the engine.

The bypass i dont believe is completely safe and neither is the hydroshield, but they are still good to use. The AEM bypass will not work on the Injen CAI intake without modification to the intake, I've already looked into it.

GOOD LUCK!

Where the intake sits on the Eclipse and where it sits on the tC is a world of difference.....

If you had the CAI on your eclipse I can understand why that happened. It runs right down the center of the motor and off to the driver's side near the bottom. The problem with the eclipse is that it has no under splash gaurd. My friend's got a 98 GS and it's the same way. We built a sheet metal splash guard to mount under it and it works great. The tC is shielded from the under side.

o, i forgot to mention.
i will also be gettin a trd or hotchkis drop in the next couple of months.

since i'll be lower, will this bring a definite increase to my chances of hydrolocking?

yeah the filter was directly behind that hole in the front bumper thats off to either side. After that happend I put the factory intake back on after trading somebody for theirs.

I was lucky and got my insurance to pay the $7,000 bill from the dealership for a new engine after my $500 deductable and played dumb saying that i bought the vehicle used from the dealership like that and thought it was factory.

No, you'll be fine...............but, if you still are worried, just get the Bypass...............but honestly, stay away from puddles or holes in the ground with the ocean coming into them. It's really overkill but if it'll help you sleep better, then get it.

but the bypass doesn't work on the Injen from AEM, does anyone have a pic of the bypass installed on an Injen?

it does work.

if u cant slide it on, then u have to cut the intake to put it on.

nah Web, im jus gonna get the shield and save some money.

im glad i saw this thread 2day

It works on any intake, you just have to cut the intake a bit. You cut about 1/2 inch from the intake and slide it in. Again, something I wouldn't want to do and it's just more work than it's worth.

if u cant slide it on, then u have to cut the intake to put it on

Thats then modding your intake which some people might not want to do by permanently cutting their tubing. I know a couple people that bought it thinking it would go right on and sold it because they didnt want to cut anything.

if u cant slide it on, then u have to cut the intake to put it on

Thats then modding your intake which some people might not want to do by permanently cutting their tubing. I know a couple people that bought it thinking it would go right on and sold it because they didnt want to cut anything.

exactly

thats y i decided to go wit the hydroshield

People are geting waaaaay too worried about something that will not happen on a tC.

You will not hydrolock with a CAI installed on a tC. I have been running mine for close to two years now and have never had one problem. Hell, I don't even have a splash guard on the bottom of my front bumper and have driven through large puddles and rain.

Just don't drive into a large body of water.... like a swimming pool, ocean, lake, etc..... (if you somehow manage to do that, i'm sure hydrolocking will be the least of your worries) :P

Swimming pools are a bad thing to drive into.... :rofl: :rofl:

I do alot of Freeway driving, I was wondering if heavy rains and road spray will effect the performance of the CAI at speeds 65+? can never predict the weather in Alaska

People are geting waaaaay too worried about something that will not happen on a tC.



One of our local members down here who actually works at a Scion dealership hydrolocked his tC with a CAI and he wasn't driving through a lake. Anything is possible so plan for the worst

alrite.
im tryna buy the hydroshield online, and it says that certain ones fit certain intakes.

can someobody pls tell me the part # for the shield that i would need for 07 intake for tC

What intake you get? Injen?

Get the measurements that it says off the filter and select the one you want.

http://www.autoanything.com/air-filters/65A2582A0A0.aspx

yea, i got injen.
but i dont have it yet, i ordered it.

i checked injen site and it doesnt even have the 07 filter measurements

It'll be the same as the 05-06 injen filters, the MAF sensor is the only different piece.

Anyone on here have Injen and is willing to measure this for her?

On that web page I sent you, I think you have the small filter. That's the most common measurements for CAIs for sport compacts. I would get that one.

i got it. thanx!
they had the filter measurements under the 05-06 intake filters

Something to keep in mind though: "Sleeve is water repellant, but not water proof."

I still am very sensitive to driving in high flood areas. I live near Annapolis and it floods there a lot in the parking lots with a heavy rain. I do a lot of highway driving in the rain and lots of city driving as well. The hydroshield will help prevent most of the problems from hydrolocking but your filter can collect so much water and trap it causing a hydrolock. This is just a preventative measure, not a 100% fix for the problem.

You can keep the cutout on the bumper closed to keep almost all water off the filter if you want. It doesn't impead performance of the filter at all.

yea, i read that part. but every lil bit counts

yea, i wasnt gonna poke out the lil gril thing on the side bumper. im leavin that there

just a quick question anyone know exactly where i can purchase a hydroshield and a replacement injen filter for my CAI?

Hydroshield:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q hzyBSQmb_c

K&N filter: (same thing and about the same prices.....hard to find just Injen filters)
http://racingparts.streetracingshop.com/buy.php?make_text=scion&ml=tc--001&model_text=tc&year=2006&part_name=cold_air_intake_filter&brand_name=k-and-n&s=1&my=1

well i have a the K&N filter. but isnt the injen one a paper filter? anyways i seem to can't find the hydroshield anywhere...

No Injen is a cotten fiber like K&N....same materials just different names. The paper types that are conical in shape are by Spectre and you get them at Autozone or advanced auto or some place like that. The smallest hydroshield should fit the standard K&N for the intake we have. Just double check the measurements. Check a few posts back of mine.

well i have a the K&N filter. but isnt the injen one a paper filter? anyways i seem to can't find the hydroshield anywhere...

i got my injen hydroshield a couple weeks ago from

www.ptuning.com

for 29 bux

.

well isn't this hydroshield gonna hurt the performance of the air filter since it is a sock type of thing?

Nope, it's a really fine mesh that allows more than enough air through and just protects the cotton element from light sprays of water. Air still flows. It's like cheesecloth if you've ever used/held it.

Tasha if you need help with the install just hit me up, I'd be happy to help out. It'll save you a bill as well. :-P

THANX again for the install yesterday!!!! :clap:
u are the man. lol :bow:

im lovin it already.

see ya on sat.