Is the cold the killer?
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I finnaly stopped procrastinating and attempted to see what my mpg was.
21.mpg
23.mpg
WHAT?! i thought something was up... but what could cause suck a suck tank? I think that it would be the constant cold (michigan sux... 2 weeks ago it was -30 w/ windchill) that keeps the engine in its "warming up" stage, so it doesnt shift into overdrive. consistantly it is traveling around at 3k rpm.... so is that the cause? i dont do long drives, im in high school, so is that the cause? Any tips are helpful. and no i do not typically floor my cube.
TY. N-G-
21.mpg
23.mpg
WHAT?! i thought something was up... but what could cause suck a suck tank? I think that it would be the constant cold (michigan sux... 2 weeks ago it was -30 w/ windchill) that keeps the engine in its "warming up" stage, so it doesnt shift into overdrive. consistantly it is traveling around at 3k rpm.... so is that the cause? i dont do long drives, im in high school, so is that the cause? Any tips are helpful. and no i do not typically floor my cube.
TY. N-G-
Winter gas and cold, I drive mostly highway, last week it was below zero every morning here. I couldn't break 28 mpg. It has warmed up and the fill up today I was at 33 mpg.
Engines are least efficient when they're cold. The larger the proportion of your driving is spent without the engine fully warmed up, the lower your MPG will be.
Winter gas doesn't help. Lots of stopping, starting, and especially idling (0 mpg when you're standing still!) hurt more.
R
Winter gas doesn't help. Lots of stopping, starting, and especially idling (0 mpg when you're standing still!) hurt more.
R
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I have found that most 87 octane during the winter is the problem. It's causing major spark knock in my wifes Jeep. We switched to mid grade 89 and all is well. Knock is gone and mpgs are back.
Lots of different factors act together for lousy cold weather mileage.
warmup time, even if limited to ice scraping time...
stop and go traffic- lots of idling and operation in lower gears
slow warmup, lots of open loop operation- deliberately rich mixture
winter gas has a lot more ethanol, which is lower in energy
accessory operation takes power- lights, wipers, blowers, defoggers all add up, although the effect is mnor compared to the a/c compressor in really hot weather...
cold lubricant drag- oil is like honey, and grease like wax at super low temps...
it even takes more energy to flex cold tires to get them to roll...
warmup time, even if limited to ice scraping time...
stop and go traffic- lots of idling and operation in lower gears
slow warmup, lots of open loop operation- deliberately rich mixture
winter gas has a lot more ethanol, which is lower in energy
accessory operation takes power- lights, wipers, blowers, defoggers all add up, although the effect is mnor compared to the a/c compressor in really hot weather...
cold lubricant drag- oil is like honey, and grease like wax at super low temps...
it even takes more energy to flex cold tires to get them to roll...
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