Forget both of those. Used RSX type S or WRX (wagons can be found for a decent price)

 

He said 4 posts above yours that he is limited to new cars 20k and under.

 

Well there is also the SRT-4 Caliber coming our with 300hp. IIRC it is right around 20k also.

 

i dont really like domestics, but i will look into it

 

Sucks that it's domestic, but the S/C Cobalt is sick and under rated by the factory. It's more like 200 to the wheels and about 215 at the crank. Very nice car.

 

I know you said under 20k, BUT the mazdaspeed 3 thats coming out looks nice. compares with the WRX, amazingly nice numbers for a 22k car. just not feeling the wagonish look. but i belive the numbers were like 230hp, 260 torque turbocharged. sexy

 

That sounds pretty nice too!

 

I have a '05 XB (I know it's not a TC as in this post)
And I also have a Chevy Colbalt (notSS) as a company car.

There is no comparison between the Scion build quality vs. the Chevy. The Chevy just feels cheap.

A good example is when I went to install brackets in each car for mounting my XM Roady. On the Colbalt dash, there are wide gaps between pieces and trim that I could "bend" out. Lots of areas for mounting. On the Scion, I couldn't fit a business card between the dash pieces. Just a tighter, better thought out build quality.

But the Colbalt is faster than the Scion. If that is all you're looking for...

 

The S/C cobalt is so much sturdier inside and out compared to the tC. One thing I noticed instanly: try slamming the tC door compared to the Cobalt's door. Yeah, the tC seems like it's going to fall off and the glass rattles. I deadened it all and it helped. Not everything is bad on the tC, but the cobalt S/C has better feel to it overall. I wish i would have coughed up the money in the first place to get that instead. But, the tC is ok for now.

 

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...=asc&&start=25

 

Base cobalt interior in no way can inform some one what the quality of the SS interior is like. The SS interior is actually very nice for a chevy.

The tC interior is much nicer than a base cobalt but the SS interior is definately nicer than the tC.

 

delete please

 

Agreed

 

 

delete please

 

 

delete please

 

web is a phony. just read what he says about a car he says "he has"

 

PLEASE DO NOT POST IN MY THREAD EHJ

i know you ahve an ongoing arguement, and i could honestly care less. if you dont mind please edit your posts

 

Listen to this thing wind up just with a pulley and exhaust. Sick!
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...98a8e9c763.htm