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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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OK guys, I am just curious. What would you like to see from the next Scion vehicle? Leave your comments as replies, but be sure to vote in the poll.
Old Sep 6, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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Personally? I am waiting for the first manufacturer to wake up and offer a small, inexpensive coupe or sedan with RWD and an engine compartment that is roomy enough to bolt in something larger.

I would honestly buy an Echo coupe if it were RWD. I bet I could fit an SR20DET in it!

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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 04:14 PM
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i would really like to see a bB truck like the blue on in the gallery or the open deck.....that would be a good time without those stupid bars that make me think subaru baja.......should be one color....

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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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I think toyota should bring over those cool looking cars they have in japan. The scion brand should be the Americans way out of the usual crap trucks,suvs,coupes and sedans. Its pretty damn sad that Canada gets the vitz and Mexico gets the smart cars. We get crap!
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I would like to see the Open Deck, or if not the OD, then something like Darren said...small, cheap, light & RWD. :D
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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A little hot hatch thats RWD :twisted:. Cant weigh more then 2300Lbs & must have at least 130hp.
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Originally Posted by chucksu
A little hot hatch thats RWD :twisted:. Cant weigh more then 2300Lbs & must have at least 130hp.
Hmmm, sounds like an S13 to me :D
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A little hot hatch thats RWD :twisted:. Cant weigh more then 2300Lbs & must have at least 130hp.
Hmmm, sounds like an S13 to me :D
:twisted: :twisted: Yeah. If toyota made something like that I just might need to buy that. Be nice have like the 1.8L in a RWD form then that way you can slap on the S/C. Then have the 2.4L as a option & the S/C for that also. So you woule have 1 car with 4 different HP ratings :twisted: :twisted:
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How much does an 86 weight?
I came over from Nissan, so I didn't even think about the corolla
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:? Not sure of that one. I got some stats from GT3, they seem close to real life at times. So for a Sprinter Trueno GT Apex aka AE86 is 925kg so 2035lbs. Still looking at GT3 it had 128hp & 110tq from a 1.6L engine. So using the new corolla engine you would only gain 2hp but 15tq. So it might work. Now that I see those weighed that much just think if they made a XRS model with a good deal of carbon fiber parts for even less weight.

Edit: some real stats on the AE86 http://www.j-garage.com/3510.htm
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The Tacoma price range is way off for first time buyers. Except the two door 3 passenger model. Not that practical for people who need a 5-seater.

A truck, two suicide doors that open independently. Seats 5-people (rear seating should be 4" more than the Tacoma access cab. RWD with Electronic AWD (at a push of a button or activates once it senses lack of front wheel traction/grip.

Powered by the 1AZFSE D-4 or the new D-4 180 Diesel Engine but in a smaller displacement to make it cheaper. Also better fuel economy. Standard TRAC and VSC. You'll need TRAC for the rear wheels with all the gobs of torque that this ScionLife Member wants and needs. :D

150-165bHP with 215-225+ lbs of torque (can be accomplish with a diesel or turbo diesel). 2006 is almost here as well as the new revised diesel fuel requirements. Max payload w/o occupants: 1500lbs with a towing capacity of 3500lbs (weight: trailer bed PLUS a road race ready xA or SCCA tC).

Available in M/T or A/T. Both shifters should be attached to the dash and not the floor. See Matrix/Corolla shifter placement.

The bed should fit plywood the size used to cover peoples windows during a hurricane. Push the rear wheels/wheel humps a bit outside of the bed so there is more width on the floor.

Weight of the truck: at or less than 3000lbs.

Price: ~$18000. Yeah it's going to get tough to sell the above specs at this price point. Maybe make the Truck at Toyota's Mexico plant. Dont do it at NUMMI. If it's done at NUMMI, GM probably would want one due to sharing contracts.
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Light, mid engine, RWD and quick 2 seater. Basically a cheap hard top MR2 Spyder. :D
Old Oct 24, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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wow you guys are stretching it a 4 door rwd performance sedan. man thats the ____ that dreams are made of well almost. id say a rwd sporty coupe. think ae86 reborn!!!!! yes yes yes i've brought it back to life!!! ____ wakeup darren its me yeah umm dream ...... i'm pretty sure from a marketing aspect it'd be a cheap truck , or a cheap sedan . but i think that they're gonna bring over the allex , siento , or the will cypha
Old Dec 20, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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rwd open deck that would be tight i would be all over it
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the next scion should be a sick GTO/Mustang GT slayer!

call it the scion gT
Old Dec 29, 2004 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by firesquare
call it the scion gT
Nice idea, but there is already a Ford GT.
Old Dec 29, 2004 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by scion
Personally? I am waiting for the first manufacturer to wake up and offer a small, inexpensive coupe or sedan with RWD and an engine compartment that is roomy enough to bolt in something larger.

I would honestly buy an Echo coupe if it were RWD. I bet I could fit an SR20DET in it!

Darren

sounds like a plan... lets make it happen scion... hopefully it'll have at least 140 hp... and a super strong suspension/frame to handle the abuse people are going to give it...

:edit: wow this topic is old...
Old Dec 29, 2004 | 03:16 AM
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i want it Right Hand Drive too
Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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i think a pick up would be different.
Old Jan 16, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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isn't the bB comes with a semi-pickup-truck option? outdoor option?



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