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squir3lz 07-02-2010 01:00 AM

Toyota's at it agin Updated
 
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http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/01/b...gines-worldwi/

ack154 07-02-2010 01:02 AM

Not sure what this has to do with tCs...

Prototype_xB 07-02-2010 02:17 AM

Haha, nice. Guess this happens to any compnay that becomes #1 for any amount of time.

draxcaliber 07-02-2010 02:55 AM

yeah, i'm pretty blown by this news too.

my brother said it sounds like toyota just grew too fast, and nobody incharged wanted to be "that guy" who says "wow, i love stock options just as much as the next guy, but i think we have a problem here!"

rangerryda 07-02-2010 03:25 AM

I wonder if they mean engines seizing randomly, not stalling. A stalled motor is just missing one part of the combustion cycle whether it be fuel, spark, compression etc but a seized engine.... yikes! Sounds like an oiling issue. Well, TC motors are stout and they've proved it over the years time and time again.

Vlad1024 07-02-2010 04:18 AM

So toyota can't make engines with more than 4 cylinders, what else is new.

XIEmperorIX 07-02-2010 11:22 AM

Considering they don't exactly mention which motors specifically (as far as I saw) it could be affecting certain 4 cylinder engines as well.

Wish the article had more info :confused:

ack154 07-02-2010 11:53 AM

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/01/b...gines-worldwi/

06sciontcnda704 07-02-2010 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by rangerryda (Post 3615096)
I wonder if they mean engines seizing randomly, not stalling. A stalled motor is just missing one part of the combustion cycle whether it be fuel, spark, compression etc but a seized engine.... yikes! Sounds like an oiling issue. Well, TC motors are stout and they've proved it over the years time and time again.

x2 :biggrin:

Jon 07-02-2010 07:37 PM

At least it doesn't affect the 2nd gen GS. I might be looking to pick one up soon.

rangerryda 07-03-2010 06:27 AM

None of the vehicles affected are being sold at dealers from what I read in the paper. The media hypes things up a lot too. Additionally, with my previous Ford's, the TSB's that should have been recalls never made it that far and you had to pay to get that stuff done. For example, my F-150 had a seatbelt recepticle malfunction but it was only a TSB, not a recall. But when the media hyped about my cruise control box (never had an issue) catching on fire, all of a sudden it was a recall!

Point being, props to Toyota for recalling when they should and taking full responsibility beforehand despite the gas pedal issue being BS. We all know how to stop a car if it's at full throttle. C/D tested it in an article against a 550 hp mustang and it stopped just fine... I like my Toyota and crap like this won't stop me from buying them.

06sciontcnda704 07-03-2010 06:38 AM

^x2 Toyota isnt going anywhere anytime soon lol.

Vlad1024 07-03-2010 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by rangerryda (Post 3616164)
We all know how to stop a car if it's at full throttle

We do, most people don't.

highvoltage1 07-03-2010 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Vlad1024 (Post 3616415)
We do, most people don't.


Yes because illegals get licenses, and women cant drive, plus an anteater could get a driver license with how easy the tests are.

Vlad1024 07-03-2010 09:56 PM

Click This is why people shouldn't drive automatics.

rangerryda 07-04-2010 03:03 AM

That guy is a moron. He's explaining issues of driver fault.

Here's my BIGGEST issue with people and cars...

For most people, their car is their second biggest investment made in their lifetime second to their house. They will spend months looking for the right house and know what type of water heater, how new the AC and roof are, where the circuit breaker is etc etc etc BUT those same people will spend anywhere from 25-60k on a car and never crack open an owners manual. Even worse, they don't know their face from a dipstick. Learning the very basics of automobile operation and safety would likely prevent 50 percent of accidents (I use that term loosely).

My mother taught me how to change oil and drive a stick.... reason being? She was a single mom and second to our house, the one and only family car needed to be reliable and it was important that she know about it in case of mechanical failure or accident avoidance.

Silly little ideas like this will save lives but people put safety in the hands of the automaker, not the driver... big problem!

TwizzY 07-04-2010 04:13 AM

^^ Awesome relation. Couldn't agree more.

Vlad1024 07-04-2010 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by rangerryda (Post 3616804)
That guy is a moron. He's explaining issues of driver fault.

Here's my BIGGEST issue with people and cars...

For most people, their car is their second biggest investment made in their lifetime second to their house. They will spend months looking for the right house and know what type of water heater, how new the AC and roof are, where the circuit breaker is etc etc etc BUT those same people will spend anywhere from 25-60k on a car and never crack open an owners manual. Even worse, they don't know their face from a dipstick. Learning the very basics of automobile operation and safety would likely prevent 50 percent of accidents (I use that term loosely).

My mother taught me how to change oil and drive a stick.... reason being? She was a single mom and second to our house, the one and only family car needed to be reliable and it was important that she know about it in case of mechanical failure or accident avoidance.

Silly little ideas like this will save lives but people put safety in the hands of the automaker, not the driver... big problem!

He may be a moron but that is the most plausible explanation for Toyota's problems(especially considering the demographic). Has there been a case where the gas pedal was proven to be at fault?

XIEmperorIX 07-04-2010 05:03 AM

I stopped watching that video after he started talking about driving with 2 feet...how the ____ hard is it to lift your foot of the gas and put it on the brake pedal? It scares me to think people drive like this (whether it is auto or stick).

hotbox05 07-04-2010 05:09 AM

just like the faulty gas pedals i'm sure this is another poor excuse of american craftsmanship part causing the problem (valve springs)


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