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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by xSTANDxSTRONGx
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All tC's should know they can beat xB's and xA's.

Scion= Slow in Japanese...........
Stock xA will actually beat a stock tC off the line all the way to 30 and maybe a lil farther. as per Motor Trend.

If you say so...
Old Jul 20, 2006 | 05:24 AM
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If you say so...
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 06:01 AM
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that's what the issue of Moter Trend said It might have been a stick xA vs an auto tC I can't remember, but being an xA driver, that stuck out and grabbed my attention. I remember that one of the xA's tested beat a tC in the graph at the back of every Motor Trend.
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must of been my baby sister driving...lol im kiddin kiddo, with the right drivers probably can a hell of a race, tc is hella heavy
Old Jul 20, 2006 | 06:42 AM
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Stock to Stock...an xA would only need I think 30 or 40hp to have a better Power to Weight. And like I said, it could have been a Stick xA vs an auto tC, and it was only to 30mph...Imma look this up....I'll get it either tonight or by the end of the week
Old Jul 20, 2006 | 06:46 AM
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just get it clear to get the P/W ratio do you divide the power into the weight: 2400 / 103?
Old Jul 20, 2006 | 07:14 AM
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I can't find that damn artical anywhere...I'm gonna keep lookin though
Old Jul 20, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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yeah I think you divide.


And it must have been an Auto tC and a m/t xA. Auto xA will do like 18 sec in the 1/4th.
Old Jul 21, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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try racing an LX CIVIC haha

i already tore up a couple eclipses har har them stupid emo kids
Old Jul 21, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Hey ive read up on this topic a bit and i'd like to contribute a little.

I own an 05 xa rs 1.0 5 speed. it now has a blitz supercharger. boost gauge k/n intake dc sports headers, and dc sports exhaust. i have beaten stock tc's a couple times. the only problem is that my governor kicks in at 117.5 mph. i know this cause i have a gps system in it. when i race on the highway usually on route 22, i can shift a 6 grand in 4th gear which puts me a 100mph at shift. i love looking at the tc drivers face when i do that. cause there usually in 5th gear and i have one more to go. then the supercharger whines up and off i go.
Old Jul 21, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jesteratc
Hey ive read up on this topic a bit and i'd like to contribute a little.

I own an 05 xa rs 1.0 5 speed. it now has a blitz supercharger. boost gauge k/n intake dc sports headers, and dc sports exhaust. i have beaten stock tc's a couple times. the only problem is that my governor kicks in at 117.5 mph. i know this cause i have a gps system in it. when i race on the highway usually on route 22, i can shift a 6 grand in 4th gear which puts me a 100mph at shift. i love looking at the tc drivers face when i do that. cause there usually in 5th gear and i have one more to go. then the supercharger whines up and off i go.


Yeah, but your going to need more than that S/C to take out a Boosted tC. At least mine anyway..
Old Jul 21, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by xSTANDxSTRONGx
Stock to Stock...an xA would only need I think 30 or 40hp to have a better Power to Weight.
Only 30-40 hp? You say that like its easy to get that out of the tiny 1.5L! You'd basically have to add another half liter of displacement, or what, $4.5K in mods?
Old Jul 21, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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i probably have about that much in mods anyway, but yeah rhythemsmoke, there is no way i could beat a boosted tc. i've seen those things and Damn thats all i can say.

but i wanted to be faster than a stock tc cause im stuck making payments and now i finally am able to do that.
Old Jul 21, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by scionstallion
i have an auto 06 stock tc, no matter how much i try, every person i race off the line beats me, sometimes people arent even trying to race and me pushing my car as hard as i can (without hurting it) wont even beat them, ive raced grand prixs, crassfires, and alot of other cars, never can i win, my queston is what of cars can we beat, if this has already been posted, sorry but i couldnt find anything
Trade in for a manual.
Old Jul 21, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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yeah, then intake, headers, and exhaust. easy upgrades, fun to put on
Old Jul 22, 2006 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by racecaryaya
Originally Posted by xSTANDxSTRONGx
Stock to Stock...an xA would only need I think 30 or 40hp to have a better Power to Weight.
Only 30-40 hp? You say that like its easy to get that out of the tiny 1.5L! You'd basically have to add another half liter of displacement, or what, $4.5K in mods?
or 15-20 with lighter wieght rims, a pulley... you can cheat it out.

also I know a guy that has over 160hp (I don't know exactly) in his xA.
Old Jul 22, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xSTANDxSTRONGx
or 15-20 with lighter wieght rims, a pulley... you can cheat it out.

also I know a guy that has over 160hp (I don't know exactly) in his xA.
Sure, you could "cheat it out," but it would take more than rims that are 4lbs lighter per corner (which is about as light as you could get even if you went with 14" race wheels) and a pulley that adds 2.5 whp (I'm being gracious with that amount). Hell, I'll even throw in a CAI for 6 whp, but the xA will still be out 0-60'd by a stock tC.

I'd love to see the dyno chart for the 1.5L with 160+ whp. I bet jesteratc will admit that would take more money than brains.
Old Jul 22, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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I'll talk tp him about that dyno chart

and there are 15" rims that are 10lb thats 7lb lighter than the stock steel.
Old Jul 22, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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of course i would admit that, you do not want to try and dump that kind of money into a vehical like i did. i really wish that i had chosen a tc and done something better. i probably have around 150 hosrespower in the engine. and i can keep up with a tc. but only stock. i need to weight for my supercharger to get over 4 grand before i can punch it. so i would say they could beat me in the zero to sixty yeah. but not zero to 100. i got my car dynod and truthfully i had 70 horsepower at the wheels. they said that was pretty good considering most of there cars that were stock dynoed at half of what the car actually had from factory. and yes i said 70 horsepower, i know that doesnt sound good but i can definately feel it. oh and whp does not mean front wheel horsepower. it referes to the flywheel. about as close to the engine as you can get. its my power to weight ratio do the calculations it will work.
Old Jul 22, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by jesteratc
oh and whp does not mean front wheel horsepower. it referes to the flywheel. about as close to the engine as you can get. its my power to weight ratio do the calculations it will work.
WHP= Wheel Horse Power, measured using a chasis dyno.
BHP= Brake Horse Power, measured on an engine dyno.

Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Engine dynamometer
An engine dynamometer measures power and torque directly from the engine's crankshaft (or flywheel), when the engine is removed from the vehicle. These dynos do not account for power losses in the drivetrain, such as the gearbox, transmission or differential etc.

Chassis dynamometer
A chassis dynamometer measures power from the engine through the wheels. The vehicle is parked on rollers which the car then turns and the output is measured.



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