okay for dis guy ^^^^ DUH and if you read any of my posts i have said an rsx-s is faster than a tC. I might argue off the line, but i totally agree that a rsx-s is faster than the tC. So i didn't state what i was comparing a gt-s to. I MENT an rsx-s vs. a gt-s is a better comparison.

 

yeah, a gts and a rsx-s are pretty much a drivers race. not many celica gts's over here but the ones i've raced i've beaten. not fair tho cuz i do have hondata.

 

good job reading up tommy

 

Okay. Here goes for you people who don't understand vtec and what "Lift" is http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm

from the link: VTEC (which stands for Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control)

and my previous post about the i-vtec. Its intelligent vtec... but on the read up I am still not exactly sure what the difference is. :p

 

lol...i know what vtec stands for. it's just not called lift in any rsx or honda forums for that matter. it's so much easier to say vtec, even tho they are both 4 letter words. intelligent vtec is just to make vtec sound dumb. i-vtec pwns!!1!

 

We are not on a honda forum. We are on a scion/toyota and in toyo world its called "lift". and its like that because. variable valve timing is always engaged. but the "lift" doesn't engage to you hit that sweet spot in your rpms.. where ever you got it set at. you wanna say "hit vtec".. Well if thats the case. I hit vtec at 1k rpms!

 

i've been to other toyota forums like supra forums and they call it vtec. i think it's just you scion owners.

 

anywho back to my previous post when i posted bad info on the rsx-s. The info there. the base rsx is 2734 lbs compared to the tC 2905 lbs. 171 lbs. same hp. tC has 22 more lb of torque. rsx is geared better and has a higher redline. That could be a drivers race.

 

check out vvt-i.net. They all call it "lift" there. Toyo people saying their vvtl-i engines hitting "vtec" should be ashamed of themselves.

 

that's what i've been trying to tell everyone in here.

 

they can wish, can't they?

 

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wtf are you talking about... when did you see a toyota owner calling vvti 'vtec'

 

Wow. you really need to stop what you are doing. Pick up the phone. and call your 3rd grade teacher and complain about your literacy. I never said i saw any toyo calling their vvt-i "vtec". RSX and I were having a nice conversation about "lift vs. vtec" and the ONLY thing toyo has that compares to vtec is vvtL-i. i did say "Toyo people saying their vvtL-i engines hitting 'vtec' should be ashamed of themselves." RSX said he saw toyo people saying "vtec" instead of "lift" but he never said anything about calling their vvt-i engines "vtec".

 

guess it can be read that way. i meant to say that when they mention acura/honda cars over there they say vtec not lift.

 

sorry, but i confused you as well and you did the same for me. i meant when toyo people over there mention honda cars they refer to vtec as vtec and not lift.

and you confused me when you said that they should be ashamed of themselves for calling their engines that. i thought that you meant they called their "lift" vtec.

 

K. lets clear dis up. When I say lift (and in other conversations on this topic) I mean: When your engine hits the magic rpm number and your engine (be it vvtl-i, or vtec) Switches over to the larger cam lobe and uses the "Lift" technology of your engine.

 

i know that's what you mean.

 

dude you got some ***** saying that a gts is superior....................take a look around...........who replaced who?!?!?!?

 

u guys argue about this crap?

no matter what, its who the driver is and what is on the car geezzzz

 

im just messin around and really dont care anymore.