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Old Jul 10, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick06tC
Originally Posted by Hillbilly
Originally Posted by 1fastscion
I've never heard a BIGGER LIE in my LIFE. ZPI YOY ARE LIARS AND THEIVES. I run a business, very similar to yours, stop cheating these scion guys out of money.


A CC processing company won't charge you a dime for a return. I know cuz I do it all the time. They only charge you if you actually process and collect. If you have to return the money they even return the fee.

KENNY AND SPI ALWAYS HAVE A CONVENIENT ANSWER FOR BEING LIARS DONT THEY?
The problem is you eventually get your money but not so quickly. It is very difficult for a small comany that quadruples it size in 6 months to finance the growth with limited capital. I know for a fact that Kenny is no thief, maybe misunderstood but he won't steal fromyou. If he was a thief he would be long gone and no one. i mean no one would be able to find him.
Ok, if he isnt a thief, why did he take this guys money one year ago, and not give him anything in return or give him his money back?
Doesnt a thief take something without providing a service or a product? Isnt that what ZPI did?

Can that be disputed?

With the limited information that you have available to you, one would only see the surface value of things, and perhaps make the comment you just made.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke

With the limited information that you have available to you, one would only see the surface value of things, and perhaps make the comment you just made.
Then educate me so I have the insider info like you do. I take it from your comment that he got his money back or his turbo kit?!

Please just answer this from a neutral side:

Doesnt a thief take something without providing a service or a product?

Then answer:

Did ZPI take money from someone without providing a service or a product?

Im not implying anything or asking it to be read into. Just two simple questions.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 03:13 AM
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That arguement of course could go both ways.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 04:05 AM
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I don't know the rules well enough so please delete this if this next line is not appropriate. I just don't know how else to react. The smiles just don't work for me.

OMFG.

This is rediculous. I have one PM and that is from John whom I PM'ed myself trying to get this straight. I expected that with this many pages of complaints my box would be full and I would be having complaints about THAT.

PLEASE If ZPI or Kenny OWE YOU SOMETHING that you feel you have not recieved or will not for whatever reason please send ME HillBilly a PM at ScionLife with details about the situation, any purchase or order info and I will see what I can do to get it out ASAP. Kesha and Kenny know what needs to go and are working to get it out. I believe all pending orders that are NOT Turbos should be out by Friday but I will not promise you anything more than August 1st. Turbo's should go before August 1st but hey I bet you hope it doesn't go until the 2nd and I am not a liar about the refund part. Well I happen to know the turbo guys won't compain about anything because they just want their boost.

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly
Originally Posted by -Keith-
These are just the ones bascily saying wheres my part or where my money...

Of course theres good ones to dont get my wrong... but 20 good ones and at least 5 bad ones... hmm yea...

You gonna buy from somone on ebay that has 5 negative feedbacks?
You know you sound jelous. You must be a competitor. What are you trying to sell?
Keith use to sell there products... he doesnt make kits. He got banned for standing up for what he believes in... Many people that favored ZPI knew his story.

Like I posted in the other thread... You came on here, acted netural... but now it looks like you work for ZPI... I love the 1,000 ZPI names and none of them have returned money to the people that are asking for it... Nester posts on Scion-tech all day long... But according to Kennys letter they arent posting online or dealing with this so called web drama.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 04:48 AM
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Apparently he does work for ZPI..

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...light=#1703226
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 1widetc
Originally Posted by Hillbilly
Originally Posted by -Keith-
These are just the ones bascily saying wheres my part or where my money...

Of course theres good ones to dont get my wrong... but 20 good ones and at least 5 bad ones... hmm yea...

You gonna buy from somone on ebay that has 5 negative feedbacks?
You know you sound jelous. You must be a competitor. What are you trying to sell?
Keith use to sell there products... he doesnt make kits. He got banned for standing up for what he believes in... Many people that favored ZPI knew his story.

Like I posted in the other thread... You came on here, acted netural... but now it looks like you work for ZPI... I love the 1,000 ZPI names and none of them have returned money to the people that are asking for it... Nester posts on Scion-tech all day long... But according to Kennys letter they arent posting online or dealing with this so called web drama.
No one ever said I couldn't post. Kenny said he wasn't going to post.

If I don't keep up with the web forums, I'm not really doing my job.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:05 AM
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since you all wanted to quote foul language, the topic has been split off as best I can tell. Here's a tip, dont use fould language, not only do you look bad, its gets you warned!

warnings sent, please try to keep this under control.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by nester
Originally Posted by 1widetc
Originally Posted by Hillbilly
Originally Posted by -Keith-
These are just the ones bascily saying wheres my part or where my money...

Of course theres good ones to dont get my wrong... but 20 good ones and at least 5 bad ones... hmm yea...

You gonna buy from somone on ebay that has 5 negative feedbacks?
You know you sound jelous. You must be a competitor. What are you trying to sell?
Keith use to sell there products... he doesnt make kits. He got banned for standing up for what he believes in... Many people that favored ZPI knew his story.

Like I posted in the other thread... You came on here, acted netural... but now it looks like you work for ZPI... I love the 1,000 ZPI names and none of them have returned money to the people that are asking for it... Nester posts on Scion-tech all day long... But according to Kennys letter they arent posting online or dealing with this so called web drama.
No one ever said I couldn't post. Kenny said he wasn't going to post.

If I don't keep up with the web forums, I'm not really doing my job.
And I quote...
To be honest we are tired of the drama. It is a prime example of people continually taking things out of context and twisting the truth to make us look bad or to make their company look better. We do not have the time nor the patience to continue to respond to the amounts of BS being posted. The thing about the internet is that 8-10 people can make things appear much worst than they are and in this business you cannot make all of them happy, the last two weeks being a prime example. We have never once lied while drama was being induced and the originator of any bad thread can verify that. The issues become issues when the same 8-10 people continue to attempt to drag our name through the dirt even though they in the most part have never had any dealings with us. I will not sit up at night surfing the net ready to respond every time one of these individuals has a negative unrelated thing to say as I have in the past. For that purpose, we chose not to read or respond to anything good or bad.
It dont get more clearer then that.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by nester
Originally Posted by 1widetc
Originally Posted by Hillbilly
Originally Posted by -Keith-
These are just the ones bascily saying wheres my part or where my money...

Of course theres good ones to dont get my wrong... but 20 good ones and at least 5 bad ones... hmm yea...

You gonna buy from somone on ebay that has 5 negative feedbacks?
You know you sound jelous. You must be a competitor. What are you trying to sell?
Keith use to sell there products... he doesnt make kits. He got banned for standing up for what he believes in... Many people that favored ZPI knew his story.

Like I posted in the other thread... You came on here, acted netural... but now it looks like you work for ZPI... I love the 1,000 ZPI names and none of them have returned money to the people that are asking for it... Nester posts on Scion-tech all day long... But according to Kennys letter they arent posting online or dealing with this so called web drama.
No one ever said I couldn't post. Kenny said he wasn't going to post.

If I don't keep up with the web forums, I'm not really doing my job.
Nester, I'm glad you are doing well. Two months ago I sent you an e-mail asking for your help because I was not successfull at getting an update on my Stage 0 tC Turbo kit order from ZPI it was already 2 month overdue -I never got a reply from you. I also had some questions on BOV and why it had been removed from the base Stage 0 package.

I finally got the BOV questions answered after a few more e-mails to ZPI. I'm still waiting on my kit.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 1widetc
It dont get more clearer then that.
Perhaps. However, unless Kenny says I can't post on SL, then I will continue to do so. I'm not sure why this is an issue.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ERIC-TC
Nester, I'm glad you are doing well. Two months ago I sent you an e-mail asking for your help because I was not successfull at getting an update on my Stage 0 tC Turbo kit order from ZPI it was already 2 month overdue -I never got a reply from you. I also had some questions on BOV and why it had been removed from the base Stage 0 package.

I finally got the BOV questions answered after a few more e-mails to ZPI. I'm still waiting on my kit.
Eric,

I apologize. I have searched through my email looking for that email, and I can not find it. It is possible it got blocked by my spam filter or that I inadvertently deleted the message.

The spam filter doesn't send a bounce message, it accepts it as a normal message and then vaporizes it.

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Old Jul 11, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nester
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Nester, I'm glad you are doing well. Two months ago I sent you an e-mail asking for your help because I was not successfull at getting an update on my Stage 0 tC Turbo kit order from ZPI it was already 2 month overdue -I never got a reply from you. I also had some questions on BOV and why it had been removed from the base Stage 0 package.

I finally got the BOV questions answered after a few more e-mails to ZPI. I'm still waiting on my kit.
Eric,

I apologize. I have searched through my email looking for that email, and I can not find it. It is possible it got blocked by my spam filter or that I inadvertently deleted the message.

The spam filter doesn't send a bounce message, it accepts it as a normal message and then vaporizes it.

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NESTOR!!!!!!!! Instead of letting this guy know what's up with his turbo, you give him some BS explanantion about not getting his emails.

So you just take peoples money and don't even call them back after the order has been placed to update them of the status?


hat is horrible service. I hope you don;t get paid for your non-skills at customer service.

Why don't you tell him where his turbo is? That's right, THEY DON'T EXIST.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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If you say so. I guess we will see what happens at the end of the month. I doubt you'll man up and apologize, at any rate.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nester
Originally Posted by ERIC-TC
Nester, I'm glad you are doing well. Two months ago I sent you an e-mail asking for your help because I was not successfull at getting an update on my Stage 0 tC Turbo kit order from ZPI it was already 2 month overdue -I never got a reply from you. I also had some questions on BOV and why it had been removed from the base Stage 0 package.

I finally got the BOV questions answered after a few more e-mails to ZPI. I'm still waiting on my kit.
Eric,

I apologize. I have searched through my email looking for that email, and I can not find it. It is possible it got blocked by my spam filter or that I inadvertently deleted the message.

The spam filter doesn't send a bounce message, it accepts it as a normal message and then vaporizes it.

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Nestor, I've sent you a new PM. Let me know if you have not gotten it.
Old Jul 11, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ERIC-TC
Originally Posted by nester
Originally Posted by ERIC-TC
Nester, I'm glad you are doing well. Two months ago I sent you an e-mail asking for your help because I was not successfull at getting an update on my Stage 0 tC Turbo kit order from ZPI it was already 2 month overdue -I never got a reply from you. I also had some questions on BOV and why it had been removed from the base Stage 0 package.

I finally got the BOV questions answered after a few more e-mails to ZPI. I'm still waiting on my kit.
Eric,

I apologize. I have searched through my email looking for that email, and I can not find it. It is possible it got blocked by my spam filter or that I inadvertently deleted the message.

The spam filter doesn't send a bounce message, it accepts it as a normal message and then vaporizes it.

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Nestor, I've sent you a new PM. Let me know if you have not gotten it.
You have reply.
Old Jul 12, 2006 | 06:44 AM
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Ok.... Offical WDS Statement Follows -

No more personal or flaming attacks will go on in this thread... I understand the tension and dissapointment/conflict, and await the resolution from Hillbilly and ZPI as a whole in the next few weeks...

If there is no resolution, I can understand, and it is being observed and will be discussed at that point.

Until then, please exercise TACT, and self-discipline on both sides of this issue and allow responsible and respectful resolutions to be reached.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 03:44 AM
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Ok. So here is my experience with ZPI....I ordered a set of Tein Coilovers and an HID kit on May 28th -ish. A month later I still didn't have any of my stuff or really any updates on the progress of my order. My 3-5 day shipping was now nearing the one and a half month mark with none of my products being shipped. This is around when Danny (Hillbilly) showed up. A day after the official ZPI website put up the notice about their new VP of Buisness Affairs he had contacted me through PM AND email trying to get my order straightened out. To make a long story short I now have a UPS tracking number and my coilovers are on thier way and my HIDs are to be shipped tommorrow.

I think Danny is doing great things for this company and all the ZPI bashers should just wait a few months and see what kind of shape ZPI will be in then.
Old Jul 14, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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My pulley finally came in today and its awesome. Also got a free t-shirt. Had 3 people in the car durring the test drive and it drove like they werent there. The Tein springs i ordered from them will arive next week. ZPI bashers dont need to wait a few months cause they are already getting thier sh*t together now
Old Jul 15, 2006 | 12:15 AM
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It's promising to see a lot of customers are getting their orders fulfilled. Unfortunately, regardless of the reasons, a persons or business reputation can be easily tarnished and it takes a while to regain the trust of the people back. These new business practices are on the right path. I myself am still waiting for an order to be filled. Although it has taken over a week to be settled, the thing I appreciate the most is the honesty and communication I am now receiving.
A lot of customers complained that ZPI was ignoring or avoiding calls, email, and IM's. Keisha has been great in letting me know of my situation and doing everything to fix it. Now we'll just see when I get my order. ..



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