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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 03:24 AM
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I know people have their reasons... but ugh...

Leave it alone. It's for internal company research and rarely evidence. If you are lying in court, you are an _______ and deserve to be locked up forever. In that sense, it could only be a good thing. The recording side of things... Sure privacy, blah blah... but I, as a citizen with bearly any connections whatsoever, could find out anything about you I could possible want to know within a week for the right price. Do you really think that the government doesnt already know a heck of a lot more about us than our cars do?
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 04:34 AM
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LOL hell I say go ahead and disble the damn box cuase God I hope your paying for that car and you spent good money on the warrenty cuase when you decide to push your car or do this or do that and you take it to a shop and they say ya that gonna cost ya 2k to fix your gonna really want the box to have been on cause if you take it to toyota and they check the box and see what you did I imagine you will get this reponse after you ask them to fix it.....
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by makubex
LOL hell I say go ahead and disble the damn box cuase God I hope your paying for that car and you spent good money on the warrenty cuase when you decide to push your car or do this or do that and you take it to a shop and they say ya that gonna cost ya 2k to fix your gonna really want the box to have been on cause if you take it to toyota and they check the box and see what you did I imagine you will get this reponse after you ask them to fix it.....
hey i heard theres this new thing out...its called SENTENCES...use these-> ..............
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 05:29 AM
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wow everyone is getting pretty high strung about the stupid box. love it or hate it, its there or it isn't. bickering about it wont help you any. and whoever said that thing about hitting the kids doing 120, I thought it was funny.
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AbboTT
I know people have their reasons... but ugh...

Leave it alone. It's for internal company research and rarely evidence. If you are lying in court, you are an _______ and deserve to be locked up forever. In that sense, it could only be a good thing. The recording side of things... Sure privacy, blah blah... but I, as a citizen with bearly any connections whatsoever, could find out anything about you I could possible want to know within a week for the right price. Do you really think that the government doesnt already know a heck of a lot more about us than our cars do?
LOL, are you serious about this?
I am sure you never lie do you?No one holier-than-thou I am sure. Hell you don't even know the difference between "baerly" and barely. What kind of bear connections do you have? Must be one with our maker of some sort.
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Do you really think you could find out any info for the right price? Can you afford the right price? Good thing you aren't running things.
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by GrungeFactory
Not to self, wrap ECU in thermite, torch in event of accident.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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Yes, there's a black box in all tCs.

No, it's really not a good idea to remove it.

Yes, it sucks that it's there.

Just try not to do 120 near any Preschools or run over any 8-year-olds, and you should be fine.

That about sums up the thread, right?

Now, what I would be interested in, is a monitoring unit so that we, ourselves, could see what the black box is recording.
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by neverspeakawordagain
I'd gladly give up my warranty protection to not have that kind of thing in the car.

Imagine that you're going 120 mph past an elementary school and run over a bunch of 8 year olds. Do you really want a record of that that a court could subpeona?
wtf! yes you shouldn't be going that fast hitting kids.. hahaha
Old Feb 11, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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This box only validates the calculations anyone well versed in physics can do. If you were in an accident chances are there is some damage and/or evidence (ie skid marks swapped paint, etc...) Based on that any mathematician or physics student could figure out how fast you were going, at what angle you contacted the other object, etc....

All this box does is verify these calculations. If your in an accident all these things will be calculated regardless of the box or not. It's not an invasion of privacy.
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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that is true to a point...however all those calculations are based on models that make things simpler.....and therefore give up some accuracy.

They can only estimate how fast somebody was going prior to the accident, the box will give you an actual speed. That's one example.....not that anybody should speed, I certainly don't.
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TCAV8R
Originally Posted by AbboTT
I know people have their reasons... but ugh...

Leave it alone. It's for internal company research and rarely evidence. If you are lying in court, you are an _______ and deserve to be locked up forever. In that sense, it could only be a good thing. The recording side of things... Sure privacy, blah blah... but I, as a citizen with bearly any connections whatsoever, could find out anything about you I could possible want to know within a week for the right price. Do you really think that the government doesnt already know a heck of a lot more about us than our cars do?
LOL, are you serious about this?
I am sure you never lie do you?No one holier-than-thou I am sure. Hell you don't even know the difference between "baerly" and barely. What kind of bear connections do you have? Must be one with our maker of some sort.
Jackhole


Do you really think you could find out any info for the right price? Can you afford the right price? Good thing you aren't running things.
Apparently, you don't know the difference between Bearly, Barely, and Baerly. If you are going to criticize how someone screws up their spelling, then make sure you spell the word right.

As you say, "JackHole"
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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So then since there is a little black box can they use that to see if there is something wrong with the car? Like take it out and decode it or something? Like it records errors and stuffy?
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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I don't see it as an invasion of privacy. Unless your doing 120 in your living room, you are most likely driving in a public place. Whether someone records you speeding with their video camera or your car does with a computer, who cares? There's nothing private about it. Just drive defensively and the box will only benefit you in the event of an accident. :D
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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@ TCAV8R
Ill ignore the poorly constructed flame, but really now... lying in court. That's a no-no.

If you have no respect for our laws, you are a menace to society and everyone in this country should have a problem with that. Speeding... eh, I almost understand that. Perjury? Hell no.

Not only is that a terrible showing of a persons integrity and character, it is simply unexcusable in today's ethics (Yeah... oxymoron... .)
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AbboTT
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Ill ignore the poorly constructed flame, but really now... lying in court. That's a no-no.

If you have no respect for our laws, you are a menace to society and everyone in this country should have a problem with that. Speeding... eh, I almost understand that. Perjury? Hell no.

Not only is that a terrible showing of a persons integrity and character, it is simply unexcusable in today's ethics (Yeah... oxymoron... .)
I don't see an oxymoron.
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by reppindaTC
i dont like that idea it takes away from privacy


i hope you were just kidding because thats one of the dumbest things i've ever heard and this site has alot of idiotic replies
Old Feb 14, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by toby3002
Originally Posted by makubex
LOL hell I say go ahead and disble the damn box cuase God I hope your paying for that car and you spent good money on the warrenty cuase when you decide to push your car or do this or do that and you take it to a shop and they say ya that gonna cost ya 2k to fix your gonna really want the box to have been on cause if you take it to toyota and they check the box and see what you did I imagine you will get this reponse after you ask them to fix it.....
hey i heard theres this new thing out...its called SENTENCES...use these-> ..............
He used them! I saw them there. Didn't you? Right there...at the end?

Just kidding. I think this is a good idea. I know some don't because they feel as though their privacy compromised, and I can empathize, but in all practicality if something does go horribly wrong with your car (accident or whatnot), I should think that you'd want this so you have something more than just your word.

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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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I can care less that it's in the car. I would rather have it so i can see who's to blame for an accident ya know? I mean it's not invading privacy unless there is a camera in there recording when you fart or pick your nose and then they put it on the internet or something i mean COME ON PEEPS!
Old Feb 15, 2005 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by motozen
Originally Posted by AbboTT
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Ill ignore the poorly constructed flame, but really now... lying in court. That's a no-no.

If you have no respect for our laws, you are a menace to society and everyone in this country should have a problem with that. Speeding... eh, I almost understand that. Perjury? Hell no.

Not only is that a terrible showing of a persons integrity and character, it is simply unexcusable in today's ethics (Yeah... oxymoron... .)
I don't see an oxymoron.
Today's ethics.

It's a stretch. And really, considering the actual definition of "ethics" it isn't really possible to stretch it that far- but... you know what I meant.

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Old Feb 15, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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I guess the other side of the coin is.....

what if someone was driving real fast or like an idiot and they hit you......and the driver and 3 passengers all make the claim that it was your fault....3 against 1...oh wait, 3 against 1(+ a black box). The black box would catch those mean lyers. HA, bastards.



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