Detailing Question.
What is the difference between polish and was? Another question.. difference between liquid verses paste? And what do products do you guys recommend? I've been using Meguiar's and I like it alot.. Ever since I've been becoming a detailing *****.. Wanting to get more shine and the liquid look.. What steps do you guys take when detailing your vehicle?
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Wash basically washed all the loose dirt off your car preparing the surface for a wax. When it comes to waxes it's all personal preference. Some people sear by certain brands. Paste is suppose to work better at covering scratches etc because it can fill them better. While the liquid waxes are easier to use.
I usually hose, wash, hose, dry, clay bar, hose, dry, wax. once a week.
I usually hose, wash, hose, dry, clay bar, hose, dry, wax. once a week.
Originally Posted by Chrisb319
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I usually hose, wash, hose, dry, clay bar, hose, dry, wax. once a week.
I usually hose, wash, hose, dry, clay bar, hose, dry, wax. once a week.
if you hose after the clay, you better hope the water youre using is the freshes water you can use. If youre using the garden hose, you might have jsut recontaminated your paint with minerals in the water (including lead).
I personally just clay then wax
I personally just clay then wax
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,736
From: Live Free Or Die, NH
Originally Posted by ChelsDS
Originally Posted by Chrisb319
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I usually hose, wash, hose, dry, clay bar, hose, dry, wax. once a week.
I usually hose, wash, hose, dry, clay bar, hose, dry, wax. once a week.
I'm going to get rid of all my Turtle Wax products i'm switching over to Meg.
Polish has micro-fine abrasives or chemicals which "buff down" the paint to eliminate swirl marks and fine scratches. It helps to level out the surface for a more consistant shine. Polish does nothing to seal or protect.
Wax (or synthetic sealers) are what you put on in the final step to protect your paint. Some people like real wax, but I find that the synthetic polymer stuff like Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax actually lasts longer. If your paint is in pretty good shape, you might not need to polish. I usually do this:
Step 1. Wash & Dry.
Step 2. Clay (follow instructions).
Step 3. Wax with NXT
You only need to Clay about twice a year.
Wax (or synthetic sealers) are what you put on in the final step to protect your paint. Some people like real wax, but I find that the synthetic polymer stuff like Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax actually lasts longer. If your paint is in pretty good shape, you might not need to polish. I usually do this:
Step 1. Wash & Dry.
Step 2. Clay (follow instructions).
Step 3. Wax with NXT
You only need to Clay about twice a year.
Keep in mind though, that there is no absolute definition or any industry wide standard for terminology. One company's polish is another company's wax is another company's sealant.
As people've said, GENERALLY speaking, wax refers to a carnauba based protection product, sealant refers to a synthetic concoction, and polish refers to any kind of paint cleaner (chemical or abrasive) and compound refers to a very strong abrasive polish.
However, ICE Synthetic Polish is a sealant and Meg's NXT Wax is a sealant also. What you end up having to do is read the product description to know what understand what the product is for. If it cleans, it's a polish. If it protects it's a wax or sealant. If it does both it's a cleaner wax.
Hosing your car down is only a problem if your water is unusually hard but even then, I mean unless your towel drying is causing scratches due to the minerals it's not really a problem. Just running water over your car isn't going to cause contaminants to bond in any significant quantity, if at all.
Here's my cardomain. If you like the shine then, well, on that page I outlined my process.
For a really good shine here are some products I recommend:
-Clear Kote Red Moose Machine Glaze (or Vanilla Moose if you don't have a machine) with Carnauba Moose Wax on top.
-Meguiar's No. 7 with Meg's No.26 on top (or if you want to fill scratches use 3M Imperial Hand Glaze instead of Meg's #7)
-For the BEST over-the-counter solution, use Duragloss 105 over 601.
-For the best durability, Collinite 476S or 845 (aka 885 and 975 respectively)
As people've said, GENERALLY speaking, wax refers to a carnauba based protection product, sealant refers to a synthetic concoction, and polish refers to any kind of paint cleaner (chemical or abrasive) and compound refers to a very strong abrasive polish.
However, ICE Synthetic Polish is a sealant and Meg's NXT Wax is a sealant also. What you end up having to do is read the product description to know what understand what the product is for. If it cleans, it's a polish. If it protects it's a wax or sealant. If it does both it's a cleaner wax.
Hosing your car down is only a problem if your water is unusually hard but even then, I mean unless your towel drying is causing scratches due to the minerals it's not really a problem. Just running water over your car isn't going to cause contaminants to bond in any significant quantity, if at all.
Here's my cardomain. If you like the shine then, well, on that page I outlined my process.
For a really good shine here are some products I recommend:
-Clear Kote Red Moose Machine Glaze (or Vanilla Moose if you don't have a machine) with Carnauba Moose Wax on top.
-Meguiar's No. 7 with Meg's No.26 on top (or if you want to fill scratches use 3M Imperial Hand Glaze instead of Meg's #7)
-For the BEST over-the-counter solution, use Duragloss 105 over 601.
-For the best durability, Collinite 476S or 845 (aka 885 and 975 respectively)
What's the difference between polish and *wax?
Wax: A true wax contains carnauba, bees wax or paraffin wax. The term wax is used two ways. You can use the word "wax" as a process upon where you apply a protective coating to a surface which could be a polymer( which is in our product) or a use a product with a wax in it.
Polish: A true polish contains an abrasivee that will remove scratches or oxidized paint. It also will bring a dull finish to a shine. More aggressive polishes can remove orange peel, deep scratches and also oxidized paint
difference between liquid verses paste?
The biggest demand in the market place is for a cream or liquid wax. We have found the time line between paste, cream, and liquid, so long as you are dealing with a good product is very close to the same, as far as length of time between waxes. In the past, there was a big demand for the paste wax, but with the performance and ease of use with the liquid and cream waxes, the demand has shifted dramatically
I hope that helps
Wax: A true wax contains carnauba, bees wax or paraffin wax. The term wax is used two ways. You can use the word "wax" as a process upon where you apply a protective coating to a surface which could be a polymer( which is in our product) or a use a product with a wax in it.
Polish: A true polish contains an abrasivee that will remove scratches or oxidized paint. It also will bring a dull finish to a shine. More aggressive polishes can remove orange peel, deep scratches and also oxidized paint
difference between liquid verses paste?
The biggest demand in the market place is for a cream or liquid wax. We have found the time line between paste, cream, and liquid, so long as you are dealing with a good product is very close to the same, as far as length of time between waxes. In the past, there was a big demand for the paste wax, but with the performance and ease of use with the liquid and cream waxes, the demand has shifted dramatically
I hope that helps
Originally Posted by Chrisb319
Wash basically washed all the loose dirt off your car preparing the surface for a wax. When it comes to waxes it's all personal preference. Some people sear by certain brands. Paste is suppose to work better at covering scratches etc because it can fill them better. While the liquid waxes are easier to use.
I usually hose, wash, hose, dry, clay bar, hose, dry, wax. once a week.
I usually hose, wash, hose, dry, clay bar, hose, dry, wax. once a week.
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