lem

Hi! Do you guys use Oil Additives? Like Slick50, Duralube, Lucas, etc.......

What is the best brand for our xB? If you use one, what kind?

Thanks!!! and Merry Christmas!!!

Lem

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HeathenBrewing

Additives are a waste of money.

Keep up on your regular OCI and STICK TOO IT!

PBflorida

newer cars don't need them. they may be somewhat useful in oldaer cars but at $15 a can it's hard to imagine you're getting your moneys worth.
some of the gas additives (Chevron Techron and fuel injector cleaners) have value if not used too often.

JustAtC

i know dealer do use oil additives for most vehicle that goes through for service.

web

don't use them on newer engines. Post 120K miles then maybe.

Slick 50 is horrible. Gunks up and stays in oil pan. Not really doing much other then clogging up your oil screen.

Lucas oil treatment is what i've used in my truck and it's been running great from 100K +...........It's at 165K now and no leaks

HeathenBrewing

Im not sure about the oil treatment, but the oil stabilizer is horrible....heres a test:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm

Your OCI is more important than any additives.

web

I do see where this test could prove some points and where it can also use a bit more re-testing. Due to the fact that this device they used doesn't generate the same amount of heat that an engine block would or a differential, some of the facts they proved were not 100% true b/c they didn't add in a temperature factor. Cooler air has more oxygen in it correct? Correct. So, if these machines are run at room temperatures or basically, any temperature below standard engine operating temperature, they are flawed. As the oil is heated up throughout the block, any air trapped within the oil or the block itself is evaporated/disintegrated into it's molecules. With the constant heat found within the engine block, I would suspect that the air bubbles found in this test would be very minimal in a real engine block or differential test.

But, I do see how this test can have some validity in just presenting numbers, but not as much in a real life test.

HeathenBrewing

The final outcome at operational temperature might indeed be different, the aeration could be less (but doubtful). But then the tests are valid during the cold start-up, and thats when you get most wear.

web

Yeah, I agree. Good information.

HeathenBrewing

Props go out o those on the BITOG website....they provide some wonderful information.

web

love the quote by the way.................that's great!

HeathenBrewing

Cheers web!

SciontCya

DON'T WASTE MONEY ON THEM!
Lots of very smart engineers have created excellent oils - one need not toss out good money and risk screwing up the balance already there - save your money for gas!

losmorob

I don't use them in my xB. I spend too much on Royal Purple Oil.
But I did use Slick 50 in my '83 Datsun 200SX.

I sold that very dependable car at 380,000 miles!

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bB2NER

No need for additives if you are running Mobil 1 since initial break in! Save the money for mods instead.

JustAtC

I know for a fact that Jim Colemen of Bethesda do use them on every vehicle that goes in their shop for 30,60, 90K mile service.

SciontCya

^^^ Stupid. unnecessary. (not you, them)

web

Helps them justify charging you more

SciontCya

Yeah, my dad's wife took in her new Civic Hybrid for it's first oil change - $220!

I told my dad - "what were you thinking" and he said "I know, but she feels better"
Crooks.

shortthrow27

I did my first oil change at 3k, and have used Mobile 1 w/ Mobile 1 filter ever since. I have 15k on my tC now and on my 10k oil change I tried 1/2 quart of Lucus Synthetic treatment just for the heck of it. Believe it or not I got an average of 1mpg better on fuel mileage
going back and forth to work, some food for thought that's all! I just changed my oil again and added the other 1/2 quart. So for now I'll keep using it, because in the past I swear by their heavy duty oil stabilizer that I've used in my older vehicles with high mileage!

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