Warm A/C
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A got the Box back in Feb 03 in the East Coast launch. Scion's marked for the Newark, Jersey port.
I'm getting the box fix for this issue (April 12th). use the A/C at our nation's capital. Man, WARM WARM air. Barely cold at all. It was ran for along time too. Also, it seems that once the A/C is turned on while I stop at a light, the Vibration (metal hitting metal) sounds start's up, making this even worse. I know our puny engines are, well puny but this sucks. Give us a smoother A/C system LOL
I'm getting the box fix for this issue (April 12th). use the A/C at our nation's capital. Man, WARM WARM air. Barely cold at all. It was ran for along time too. Also, it seems that once the A/C is turned on while I stop at a light, the Vibration (metal hitting metal) sounds start's up, making this even worse. I know our puny engines are, well puny but this sucks. Give us a smoother A/C system LOL
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From: San Diego, CA
Originally Posted by hahajoey
theres a service bulletin..
called the Air-mix cable adjustment
Procedure,
1) Remove combination meter.
refer to the TIS Repair Manual "INSTRUMENT PANEL SUB ASSEMBLEYY"
2) Adjust the Air-Mix damper control cable sub-assembly
a) set the temperature control **** in the MAX COOL position
b) remove the outer cable in the cable clamp
c) with the arm in the "MAX COOL" position, the clearance between the arm and prjection on the heater unit should be 1mm(0.039 inches) or less.
d) install the inner cable end on the control lever while holding the lever arm in the MAX COOL position
e) reinstall the outer cable in the cable clamp while slighty pressing it in the direciton of the arrow.
called the Air-mix cable adjustment
Procedure,
1) Remove combination meter.
refer to the TIS Repair Manual "INSTRUMENT PANEL SUB ASSEMBLEYY"
2) Adjust the Air-Mix damper control cable sub-assembly
a) set the temperature control **** in the MAX COOL position
b) remove the outer cable in the cable clamp
c) with the arm in the "MAX COOL" position, the clearance between the arm and prjection on the heater unit should be 1mm(0.039 inches) or less.
d) install the inner cable end on the control lever while holding the lever arm in the MAX COOL position
e) reinstall the outer cable in the cable clamp while slighty pressing it in the direciton of the arrow.
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Alright, I took in the Box to Russell Toyota/Scion for the warm A/C issue I had while I was in our Nations Capital. Well, Greg (service guy) said that the Tech(s) checked the temperature and said that 34F or so is the lowest it can go since the Box is using R31 or R1 Freon or some other Freon designation. They didnt touch the TSB. I'll check again once summer hits Maryland.
abit off topic...
Overall, excellent service with these guys. Did I mention they gave me a free loaner car, 2004 Avalon with leather seats, sunroof,...ohhh, we need the Avalon suspension in our BOX!
abit off topic...
Overall, excellent service with these guys. Did I mention they gave me a free loaner car, 2004 Avalon with leather seats, sunroof,...ohhh, we need the Avalon suspension in our BOX!
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From: NoVA
Originally Posted by hotlanta
I had the same problem and went to the dealer (World Toyota) to have it checked. I gave them the TSB# and they said it was not defective and nothing could be done because the item was not recalled. I spent 1.5 hours waiting for them just to tell me that. On top of that, I saw the technician joyriding in my ride "to make sure". He "made sure" after riding around their parking lot for 5 minutes-What the ef? I was ____ed. The technician had the nerve to ask if I pressed the AC button and if I turned the dial to blue-dumb ___! Then he tries to explain that the TSB only refers to adjusting the cables so that the dial can turn all the way to the blue. He was bull____ting me. So, still not as cool as could be, but bearable. While the weather is still comfortable, what do you suggest I do? Time is money and I can't stand to wait idly in a crappy service lounge or watch them ____ around in my ride. Can I just DIY?? Or rather DIM?
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From: In the Hot Tub
Originally Posted by VinceJr
Originally Posted by hotlanta
I had the same problem and went to the dealer (World Toyota) to have it checked. I gave them the TSB# and they said it was not defective and nothing could be done because the item was not recalled. I spent 1.5 hours waiting for them just to tell me that. On top of that, I saw the technician joyriding in my ride "to make sure". He "made sure" after riding around their parking lot for 5 minutes-What the ef? I was ____ed. The technician had the nerve to ask if I pressed the AC button and if I turned the dial to blue-dumb ___! Then he tries to explain that the TSB only refers to adjusting the cables so that the dial can turn all the way to the blue. He was bull____ting me. So, still not as cool as could be, but bearable. While the weather is still comfortable, what do you suggest I do? Time is money and I can't stand to wait idly in a crappy service lounge or watch them ____ around in my ride. Can I just DIY?? Or rather DIM?
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From: WA
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From: Chesapeake, VA
Originally Posted by elzy0000
from what i understand all TSB are free... to toyota a tsb is basically a recall but they dont like to say recall
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From: Scikotics Jax!
Originally Posted by kdanie
Take it back to the dealer and have it checked out. Sounds like it lost some refrigerant. I know that in warm weather the A/C is marginal. Echo owners have the same problem and have found that insulating the A/C tubing in the engine compartment helps some.
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I did that TSB myself since i work dayshift m-f.
Took off the instrument cluster panel bezel first (the plastic screw needs to be unscrewed first then the bezel snaps off) .
Unscrewed three screws one on the left of the instrument cluster, one in the middle, and one on the right.
Pull it out and push it to the left without disconnecting it. Grab a flashlight and look down into the hole. Adjust what needs to be adjusted per TSB webpage. I readjusted it but it seems that my A/C can't go any colder and that it's within the 1mm spec.
I used copper pipe insulation that slips over piping. i believe i got the 3/8th inch one but go into home depot and ask for it. one long piece will do. also grab some aluminum duct tape to finish it. looks ugly but it's better than nothing.
Took off the instrument cluster panel bezel first (the plastic screw needs to be unscrewed first then the bezel snaps off) .
Unscrewed three screws one on the left of the instrument cluster, one in the middle, and one on the right.
Pull it out and push it to the left without disconnecting it. Grab a flashlight and look down into the hole. Adjust what needs to be adjusted per TSB webpage. I readjusted it but it seems that my A/C can't go any colder and that it's within the 1mm spec.
I used copper pipe insulation that slips over piping. i believe i got the 3/8th inch one but go into home depot and ask for it. one long piece will do. also grab some aluminum duct tape to finish it. looks ugly but it's better than nothing.
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well try moving on to a different type of feon, just as long as it "compatible" with 134a you will be ok, do a search on yahoo, for freons, I belive there is a different kind on freon that is called "super-cool" R???? its 350% more efficent than 134a but you will pay for. its $40 per lb if I remember correctly.
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Give them antoher chance
Originally Posted by hotlanta
I had the same problem and went to the dealer (World Toyota) to have it checked. I gave them the TSB# and they said it was not defective and nothing could be done because the item was not recalled. I spent 1.5 hours waiting for them just to tell me that. On top of that, I saw the technician joyriding in my ride "to make sure". He "made sure" after riding around their parking lot for 5 minutes-What the ef? I was ____ed. The technician had the nerve to ask if I pressed the AC button and if I turned the dial to blue-dumb ___! Then he tries to explain that the TSB only refers to adjusting the cables so that the dial can turn all the way to the blue. He was bull____ting me. So, still not as cool as could be, but bearable. While the weather is still comfortable, what do you suggest I do? Time is money and I can't stand to wait idly in a crappy service lounge or watch them ____ around in my ride. Can I just DIY?? Or rather DIM?
