what wax are you using?
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Joined: Dec 2004
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From: SoCal
I used to be against any sort of carnuba wax because of the build-up and potential to yellow. I would only use synthetics because they are just plain, well - better. Plus, they offer better UV protection.
Then along came Zaino. DAMN. Zaino truly is the BEST paint protection system out there. I say 'system' becuase it is not just a 'wax' but a restorer, protector, and polish.
It is incredibly easy to apply. Super thin layers, and easy to buff off. It's not white, so if you have a dark colored car, you won't get that white crap in the crevices you can't reach to buff.
A while back, an independant study on over 50 waxes was performed and documented. I bought this report. They tested everything from the cheapest 2.99 jar of wax to the 180.00 Zymol stuff. The synthetic waxes just blow away the carnubas.
Many of the Zymols, including the ones over 100.00 did VERY poorly.
Who was #1? Zaino... by far.
One last thing - Carnuba is very thick and brittle. It is not nice and squishy stuff that can just be bottled and sold. In order to soften it and make it 'usable' - they use the very things/CHEMICALS we are trying to protect our paint from in the first place. Food for thought.....
Happy waxing!
Then along came Zaino. DAMN. Zaino truly is the BEST paint protection system out there. I say 'system' becuase it is not just a 'wax' but a restorer, protector, and polish.
It is incredibly easy to apply. Super thin layers, and easy to buff off. It's not white, so if you have a dark colored car, you won't get that white crap in the crevices you can't reach to buff.
A while back, an independant study on over 50 waxes was performed and documented. I bought this report. They tested everything from the cheapest 2.99 jar of wax to the 180.00 Zymol stuff. The synthetic waxes just blow away the carnubas.
Many of the Zymols, including the ones over 100.00 did VERY poorly.
Who was #1? Zaino... by far.
One last thing - Carnuba is very thick and brittle. It is not nice and squishy stuff that can just be bottled and sold. In order to soften it and make it 'usable' - they use the very things/CHEMICALS we are trying to protect our paint from in the first place. Food for thought.....
Happy waxing!
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Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 131
Meguiar's Gold Class Clear Coat Car Wax here.
The wax all by itself when hand applied does a pretty darn amazing job at glossing up the paint on cars, but the trick here is on older cars (ie. those with more scratches/corrosion) is to use an orbital buffer. You don't need to use the orbital to remove the wax for great results, just to apply the wax. Once it's one with an orbital, it's just darn amazing how nice a car can look! Of course, for new cars with great paint, you can baby it all day long with hand applied wax and hand buffing. Also, over time, as more debris gets stuck on the paint, clay bar + Meguiars Quick Detailer as the lubr. will take off all of that junk fast and w/o scratching the car. Another trick is after you're totally done removing the wax by hand, spray their Quick Detailer and go over lightly with a clean cloth to buff it up another round.
The wax is also easy to apply and easy to take off unlike some other waxes, so you never have to push hard to get the wax off.
(Used to also like Armor All Car Wax in the bottle a few years ago before they pulled it from the market, but Meguiars wins for glossiness.)
The wax all by itself when hand applied does a pretty darn amazing job at glossing up the paint on cars, but the trick here is on older cars (ie. those with more scratches/corrosion) is to use an orbital buffer. You don't need to use the orbital to remove the wax for great results, just to apply the wax. Once it's one with an orbital, it's just darn amazing how nice a car can look! Of course, for new cars with great paint, you can baby it all day long with hand applied wax and hand buffing. Also, over time, as more debris gets stuck on the paint, clay bar + Meguiars Quick Detailer as the lubr. will take off all of that junk fast and w/o scratching the car. Another trick is after you're totally done removing the wax by hand, spray their Quick Detailer and go over lightly with a clean cloth to buff it up another round.
The wax is also easy to apply and easy to take off unlike some other waxes, so you never have to push hard to get the wax off.
(Used to also like Armor All Car Wax in the bottle a few years ago before they pulled it from the market, but Meguiars wins for glossiness.)
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Joined: Dec 2004
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From: Biloxi, MS (but not by ch
Zaino ? Save your Money
I've read so many threads from people hyping the Zanio products, but found a thread where they actually compare Zanio to Meguires..
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/gheumann/zaino_test/
In the test, Zanio isn't the winner. My advice is save your money. I currently use Maguires NXT and love it. Zymol works great, but doesn't last very long and is a pain to get off. NXT comes off very easy with very little dust.
I'll probably give Maguires Gold Class Wax a try next time just to see how good it is.
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/gheumann/zaino_test/
In the test, Zanio isn't the winner. My advice is save your money. I currently use Maguires NXT and love it. Zymol works great, but doesn't last very long and is a pain to get off. NXT comes off very easy with very little dust.
I'll probably give Maguires Gold Class Wax a try next time just to see how good it is.
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Re: Zaino ? Save your Money
Originally Posted by Almost Jake
In the test, Zanio isn't the winner. My advice is save your money. I currently use Maguires NXT and love it. Zymol works great, but doesn't last very long and is a pain to get off. NXT comes off very easy with very little dust.
I'll probably give Maguires Gold Class Wax a try next time just to see how good it is.
I'll probably give Maguires Gold Class Wax a try next time just to see how good it is.
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Joined: Dec 2004
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From: Arlington, WA
Cold and rainy here too,I've always used Meguiar's...a word to the wise...nver use turtle wax its really awful...from my experience with it . Anyway when the weather gets warm again I'll be on that little Xb with Meguiar's all over it! Doesn't cost too much and works just fine!
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True. Avoid Turtle Wax. Avoid anything with cleaner in the description - you have a new car with new paint, you don't need to be cleaning anything off the baby just yet -- wait a decade for the paint to go a bit and then you might need it.
Waxes are different from those labled with and without 'cleaner' in them. You don't want the latter since they've got junk in them that'll wear paint off faster than you can say "oops" on a new car. (Old cars, it's okay - one use can help to buff it up a bit, but seriously, avoid and just get an orbital buffer instead and use regular wax.)
Another good way I've been testing is to see what the waxes do to my hands after a hour's worth of applying the stuff. The synthetics stink, dry out my skin, and don't smell any good. The good waxes smell decent, smell of wax, leave the skin soft and aren't that harsh at all. Meguiars has always been decent in this regard.
Waxes are different from those labled with and without 'cleaner' in them. You don't want the latter since they've got junk in them that'll wear paint off faster than you can say "oops" on a new car. (Old cars, it's okay - one use can help to buff it up a bit, but seriously, avoid and just get an orbital buffer instead and use regular wax.)
Another good way I've been testing is to see what the waxes do to my hands after a hour's worth of applying the stuff. The synthetics stink, dry out my skin, and don't smell any good. The good waxes smell decent, smell of wax, leave the skin soft and aren't that harsh at all. Meguiars has always been decent in this regard.