i like'em there not the nicest lookin cars put i bet they tear the **** out of a scion in a race LOL

 

the 170hp and 250hp models would beat a lot of cars in any kind of race except drift. Power to weight owns.

Cya

 

ummmm im not sure they may be a pretty good drift car, cosidering they are still RWD. they have an awesome power to weight ratio.

 

The only good thing brazil produces is airplanes and lots of electricity from mega large dams. EMBRAER makes some really nice planes and if you ever flew a short commuter hop on a major airline, chances are it was on an EMBRAER.

I didnt know brazil made cars too, although I would not want to get into a collision in that car.

 

Its a steel frame, its designed for safety as well, not just for being mini.

Cya

 

I thought the Chinese cars had steel frames too. . . didn't one of their SUV's score a whopping 1 star in recent tests? Older American cars were almost completely steel and did poorly as well. Why? There is nothing to absorb the forces of impact. Rule of physics, the energy has to go somewhere, so either you bounce (producing MASSIVE and possibly fatal G loads) or the car crushes, absorbing the impact.

The goal is to design a rigid cabin that does not collapse (and the cabin, by design is the weakest part of the vehicle), and a soft exterior to absorb impact and lessen the forces.

I'm not saying that it's not going to be safe, but I'm not sure of Brazil has the engineering know how to properly design crush zones into a car.

It is a cool idea though, but I would personally prefer to own both a Scion and a motorcycle, if I really wanted cheap speed that badly. I would imagine the increased agility of a motorcycle (in the hands of a responsible rider) to be a larger safety margin than this particular car.

 

Brazil has been making cars for 30+ years, very few manufactures in Brazil but there are a few, one Obvio. The guy that owns the company has been racing these small, mini/smart cars for years. This is nothing new in the world of Brazil, its new to the US though. That much experience and knowledge in the racing department, and daily street car department tells me these cars will pass our DOT easy. Someone with that much experience in the field of automotive can't design a car without considering saftey, especially with the saftey nuts of today and racing background.

These cars are not that cheap, think about how small it is then think of the price. If the car was the size, of say the xb, then price would be in the $20k's i'm sure. The other, 012 is priced at $28,000. Thats hardly cheap, its basically built to be a mini-super car. The 828, is built to be a city daily with a fun race type feel, with lots of power. (power to weight is incredible for the price with the 170hp-250hp models)

So with that said, i have faith that Obvio will be in the states and it will be a safe car. Of course, i could be wrong and you could absolutely be right. Which, if you are, then its sad to say he learned nothing over the years hes been doing this.

Cya

 

Good information to know, and I wasn't aware of any of it. Most of what you say is speculative, as I'm sure you know, but you seem to have good reason for believing so. I guess I'll have to reserve judgement for the real thing.

I'm not quite sure which model is the production version. The image with the carputer, lambo doors, and the body kit looks like a hopped up modified version. . . is it the standard model or what? And the regular looking model looks to exhibit much larger tolerances in body panel fittiment.

But after reading up a bit, it doesn't look that bad. I would be interested in seeing one.

 

Well, i believe the one with lambo style doors is show, i could be wrong but i believe so.

If you go to the 1st page of the thread, the ones with the pictures of the 828 by the water and stuff, thats the current 828 and the doors open regularly.

Most of what i say is mixed between fact and logic opinion. Obviously, no one in the states knows for sure on every little detail till we actually get the 828 and 012. But, yeah.

Cya

 

Bump!

 

Haha, that little car is pretty goofy looking, yet oddly appealing. While I don't think I'd own one...sounds like it would be fun to drive!

 

 

I think the idea is....

if you're in a city... traffic isn't typically going to go 50+ mph, so it might be "safe enough" for most types of crashes. Hopefully, if you purchase one, it won't see much interstate use, where it is probably the "most dangerous" place to operate it.

However, get in an accident with this thing, and you're screwed. Period. Power/weight might be nice, but in an accident, its weight vs. weight, and anything the size of an expedition would tear right through that.

 

brazil also makes good women. brazilian girls are hot!!!

 

I actually like the color of the car, the green color that is. The interior is interesting, not sure if I like that or not, but the last picture where it was parked against the curb is just crazy. That car is way too small.

 

Wow, I forgot how big this thread of mine got

I know this post died a year and a half ago, but time to resurrect it!

The initial release date was set for 06, that was tentative. Now that more testing, etc, has been done, this is set now to be released by ZAP in the us in late 2008/early 2009, what do you guys think, Sink or Swim?


So check this out, here is a video of the actual car being test driven in a parking lot in miami

http://www.obvio.ind.br/Novo_Site/produtos/Obvio%20!%20828.wmv

Here is a 3D interior thing of it as well

http://www.zapworld.com/files/obvio-828/obvio-828.mov

pretty crazy, very interesting, what are your thoughts? :-)[/img]

 

Where's the rest of it?

(BTW, if a Scion owner asks that question, you have a small car)

 

LOL that is true indeed

 

now that i changed my mind from my first post on this thread 2 years ago i like it

 

lmao, was showing my aunt the video and she said this car is amazing, because it clearly identifies dummies and makes it easy to kill them all in one.