Duker you don't know how right you actually are .. if there was an attack during an election year, close to the election, it can be posponed, indefinately or until the threat has been neutralized. Got a torch? lets set some fires and but some firetrucks ..

 

I have no problem with the Feds giving aid to the city of state of Louisiana to rebuild...however, they should not provided any flood insurance. This will result in large parts of New Orleans being abandoned because why would anyone build in a place that is going to get hit with another hurricane with no insurance. They can take the federal money and rebuild on high ground. If people really want to live there, they will take the risk themselves - why should I subsidize people who want to live an a potentially dangerous location.

Let's denigrate poor people for being poor because they are all bad people who steal TV's and mooch off welfare......one of Ronnie Reagan's great legacies. When huge corporations pay a proportionally lower percentage of taxes than the middle class that's a good thing because it will trickle down and help us all.....even lazy poor people.

 

"Seriously, guys!!! You're all getting WAY too tense about all of this.
Listen, me and some buddies are going on a little hunting trip this weekend. Really, you should all come with me. It would help you all relax."

 

How do yall sleep at night? I swear, I have heard some childish things and some of what you parinoid people really think is so scary!

Seriously, you think if the president wants to create a diversion, he can just postpone the election? That is why we have the Second Ammendment....But, most of yall don't want a free society to have guns....

 

For the record, I am NOT one of those people who thinks guns are bad. I own 'em, I use 'em and think the 2nd amendment has little to do with hunting or self-defense. It is there to offer a way for the citizens to defend themselves aganist tyranny.

Im not too sure if we the people are capable of such direct action though. That would entail actually doing something....

Sorry...going off topic so I will stop there.

 

Yes, he has the ability to postpone the election. Executive orders have been used in the past to round up a paticular race and put them into internment camps.

I have no doubt they could be used to put off an election, if its in the name of the war on "terror".

 

Oldmanatee Wrote:

What the hell does your comment have to do with this ?

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

In the event of a national security risk general and or presidential elections can and likely will be postponed. If an election can be rigged what's to stop someone from postponing one?

Seriously Oldmanatee, you need to get out of Alabama more often its poluting your mind ..

 

My favorite web site is
www.ar15.com
Besides my evil black rifles i own a sig sauer .40 a smith and wesson sw40ve .40 and a old 870 shot gun. How much of a chamce do you think i have against a tank. Which is irrelevant cause they will take down dissenters one group at a time

 

C'mon .. now who in here doesn't know that the 2nd amendment is outdated ? It was written at a time in our history when farmers were protecting themselves from a british invasion. The amendments intention was to allow individuals to protect thier property from the british and written well before automatic weapons and the such.

So while it is a necessary amendment, law makers and politicians alike have seriously taken advantage of it, which is wrong.

 

Im an AK fan myself, but we should save that debate for another thread.

Regarding your tank comment, look at Al Queda. Low tech can beat high tech. NEVER forget that. Where there is a will, there is a way.

 

I think manatee was trying to say that the people, could, in theory, rise up and get him out of office.

That is asking a lot of the sheeple though, and I dont think it has a real chance today. 150 years ago, possibly.

 

Hmm...heres the amendment in question:



Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.




Nope, nothing about protecting your property or defending yourself againt the British. Just a comment regarding the security of a free state.

 

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed

No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
---Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution, 1776.

Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.
---Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (Philadelphia 1787).

[W]hereas, to preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them; nor does it follow from this, that all promiscuously must go into actual service on every occasion. The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle; and when we see many men disposed to practice upon it, whenever they can prevail, no wonder true republicans are for carefully guarding against it.
---Richard Henry Lee, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.


The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.
---James Madison,The Federalist Papers, No. 46.

 

And one of my favs:

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
- B. Franklin, an American inventor, journalist, printer, and statesman.

 

That is exactly what I was saying...

And I'll stay in Bama if my other option is FL... your folks can't even learn hot to operate a paper punch....

 

Clinton delivered. We had surplus cash.

We can ALWAYS decide to generate debt in order to pay for things like hurricane relief. And it's more than New Orleans, the whole area of the Gulf Coast needs more help than they're getting.

 

That is mega funny

Three Palm Beach voters sued late Wednesday to force another vote in the county, alleging that the badly designed ballot was illegal and caused Democrats to cast their votes for Buchanan when they were trying to vote for Vice President Al Gore. Even Buchanan jumped into the fray Thursday, telling NBC's "Today" that "it seems to me that these 3,000 votes people are talking about -- most of those are probably not my vote and that may be enough to give the margin to Mr. Gore." Shortly after, a federal judge agreed to hold an emergency hearing on the lawsuit Thursday afternoon.

 

CLASSIC!!!!!

I was ready to disconnect FL from the states when that whole mess broke out!!

 

If I was dictator.....I would like to see everyone have to physically write out the name of their chosen candidate on the ballot. This would insure:

1) That people too stupid to spell would NOT have their vote counted.

2) That people actually KNOW who they are voting for instead of coloring in a bubble. Absolutly no chads.

3) That people would learn how to spell if they wanted their vote counted..a plus anyway you look at it.

4) That people could write the official language of this country. This should be MANDATORY in my not-so-humble opinion if you are to vote.

 

Bush won on the strenght of the black vote.......Clarence Thomas