!!!government shutdown imminent!!!
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You don't understand the rage that's traveling through my veins if this does not get resolved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvK2Km70eQU&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di4aa...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJeSy...feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvK2Km70eQU&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di4aa...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJeSy...feature=relmfu
I'm just learning about this. And I'm in shock. I can't believe this
I mean really. Cut the wages of the ____s making stupid decisions. Of we re- elect this idiot this country deserves to be in the crapper
I mean really. Cut the wages of the ____s making stupid decisions. Of we re- elect this idiot this country deserves to be in the crapper
I like how he described non-essential personnel mainly as the military including those in Iraq and Afghanistan... All the while he goes on vacation and brings personal assistants for his wife and 8 chefs. A million bucks a day for him to sit on his ___ while those actually doing something and having a high chance of dieing are the ones he doesn't want to paid. There is your 'change'
Here is your way to solve the budget crisis. Drop Welfare and Social Security (half the budget is spent on SS). Not like any of us will ever benefit from either but a nice chunk of our yearly income goes to them
Here is your way to solve the budget crisis. Drop Welfare and Social Security (half the budget is spent on SS). Not like any of us will ever benefit from either but a nice chunk of our yearly income goes to them
I can't say I was furious. Annoyed, sure, but it's not like we were going to be furloughed. It's the GS and hourly-wage federal employees that work with us daily that were going to be hurting, being sent home and not knowning how much pay they'd be shorted.
Military were always considered essential personnel. Kay Bailey Hutchinson wrote a bill that would have paid military members, no matter what, for the rest of the year, AND found 60 co-sponsors in the Senate. The House had a similar bill intruducted by Rep. Goemert of Texas. The military angle could have been taken care of very quickly - pass the two identical bills, have them on the president's desk with no silly riders or stipulations, and ensure military pay was taken care of. The House leadership instead chose to play games with a competing bill, a one week continuing resolution with policy riders for the bible beaters, knowing that it wouldn't make it through the Senate, giving them an opportunity to say "we tried, but they wouldn't do anything.".
More to the point, these shutdowns are nothing new: Happened in the 90s, and were pretty frequent in the 80s. This brings up another point: Too many military people that can't budget their pay. Drive through base housing, look at the lower enlisted areas - can you find a junker car? Hell no!
An E-nothing with a dependent rate BAH makes on average (BAH of course varies by locale) 41,516.88/year. For an E-5 with 5 years and a family, that's $49,444.08. For an E-6 with 10 years, that's $60,520.08. They are taxed at a lower rate than a comparable civilian, as the BAH/BAS portions aren't taxable, and no insurance premiums/copays/fees to worry about. This is more than enough pay to be financially stable; . I've been in a hair short of 9 years; if you are living paycheck to paycheck in the military, you are doing it wrong. The one constant in the military is that SOMEBODY is about to F*** up your pay. Finance, personnel, Congress, doesn't matter, someone is about to screw you. You'd better have a cushion in your pay so that you can make it a few pay periods without your correct entitlements. They'll get it sorted, but it may take a month or two.
The bottom line - there was never any doubt that the military would get paid, but there was a possibility of delay, and it still may not be perfect (DFAS said they may make multiple deposits on the 15th). Which means, basically, business as usual.
Military were always considered essential personnel. Kay Bailey Hutchinson wrote a bill that would have paid military members, no matter what, for the rest of the year, AND found 60 co-sponsors in the Senate. The House had a similar bill intruducted by Rep. Goemert of Texas. The military angle could have been taken care of very quickly - pass the two identical bills, have them on the president's desk with no silly riders or stipulations, and ensure military pay was taken care of. The House leadership instead chose to play games with a competing bill, a one week continuing resolution with policy riders for the bible beaters, knowing that it wouldn't make it through the Senate, giving them an opportunity to say "we tried, but they wouldn't do anything.".
More to the point, these shutdowns are nothing new: Happened in the 90s, and were pretty frequent in the 80s. This brings up another point: Too many military people that can't budget their pay. Drive through base housing, look at the lower enlisted areas - can you find a junker car? Hell no!
An E-nothing with a dependent rate BAH makes on average (BAH of course varies by locale) 41,516.88/year. For an E-5 with 5 years and a family, that's $49,444.08. For an E-6 with 10 years, that's $60,520.08. They are taxed at a lower rate than a comparable civilian, as the BAH/BAS portions aren't taxable, and no insurance premiums/copays/fees to worry about. This is more than enough pay to be financially stable; . I've been in a hair short of 9 years; if you are living paycheck to paycheck in the military, you are doing it wrong. The one constant in the military is that SOMEBODY is about to F*** up your pay. Finance, personnel, Congress, doesn't matter, someone is about to screw you. You'd better have a cushion in your pay so that you can make it a few pay periods without your correct entitlements. They'll get it sorted, but it may take a month or two.
The bottom line - there was never any doubt that the military would get paid, but there was a possibility of delay, and it still may not be perfect (DFAS said they may make multiple deposits on the 15th). Which means, basically, business as usual.
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