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From: Gonzales
Yeah, I'm the same way. I have one gun that stays by my bed incase, but I love my knives. There are a lot more that I want also. Anyway, keep up the good work, you really have a good talent.
Thanks Giovanni! That did help. So, I would assume that folded steel is more expensive, right? Which of the three (kendo, kenjutsu or iaido) be easier to begin for someone not in shape (I'm not obese or anything, just out of shape)?
Originally Posted by kgzero
Thanks Giovanni! That did help. So, I would assume that folded steel is more expensive, right? Which of the three (kendo, kenjutsu or iaido) be easier to begin for someone not in shape (I'm not obese or anything, just out of shape)?
Yes, forge folded/welded blades are more costly. Average cost of a custom monosteel blade is around $2000-$2400 for just the blade unpolished. Average cost of a folded blade is around $3200-$3500 for unpolished blade. It depends on the smith forging them, but that gives you a rough idea.
However, I dont want you to get discouraged, because thus far I have been talking about custom blades, but, there are other options out there for a beginner. There are some retailers out there that offer high quality production blades that are significatly cheaper than custom. These blades are what I call working blades because they are good sturdy blades that can be trained with and will last for a long time but because they are production made will never be collectable. Companies with good product include the following:
http://dynastyforge.com/
http://www.bugei.com/
http://lastlegend.com/
http://kriscutlery.com/
For a description of each and how they compare go to:
http://forums.swordforum.com/showthr...threadid=41155
As for which one to start with, well, whichever one is closest to you. Check out this site http://www.e-budo.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=124
Let me know what you think.
Thanks again, Giovanni! Time to study up on swords and sword martial arts. I'll let you know when I read up on all the info! So far the production blades looking promising.
Now how to sneek the money for the sword past my fiance.
Now how to sneek the money for the sword past my fiance.
Originally Posted by kgzero
Now how to sneek the money for the sword past my fiance. 
I said "look here woman, dont make me get crazy on you......I'm gonna buy this blade whether you like it or not!!" Then she came into the room and I ran like hell
Good luck!
What up Gio,
I wanted to know what your opinion is on the Paul Chen Katanas. I see a lot of mixed opinions, actually, on all production swords in general. I was looking around and the Paul Chen Tsunami caught my eye.
I wanted to know what your opinion is on the Paul Chen Katanas. I see a lot of mixed opinions, actually, on all production swords in general. I was looking around and the Paul Chen Tsunami caught my eye.
Originally Posted by kgzero
What up Gio,
I wanted to know what your opinion is on the Paul Chen Katanas. I see a lot of mixed opinions, actually, on all production swords in general. I was looking around and the Paul Chen Tsunami caught my eye.
I wanted to know what your opinion is on the Paul Chen Katanas. I see a lot of mixed opinions, actually, on all production swords in general. I was looking around and the Paul Chen Tsunami caught my eye.
Now with that out of the way, the tsunami is a good mid-range blade suitable for light to medium cutting. It will cost you in the neighborhood of $500.00 and is a decent blade. Hanwei blades are production blades that have been known to have poor quality control at times. Places like bugei.com who have their own line of blades with Hanwei charge a premium price for their blades but have far better quality control, but every now and then a sub par blade slides by. The most important thing to do if find a retailer that has a good exchange policy for defects. I have had good dealings with www.888knivesrus as he is based in Jacksonville FL where I frequently visit.
The other thing I want to cover is your intentions. If you intend to get formal training I urge you to hold off on the purchase of a blade as your instructor will be key in you ultimate choice of blade. If you intent to make a purchase for collection or self training, which I dont reccomend but its common, then I suggest you find a retailer near you with blades in stock for you to feel. Some blades will feel better in your hand as weights and POB (point of balance) vary from sword to sword.
My suggestion is to first determine your budget and then find every possible blade that fits your price range, and go from there.
Keep me updated
Giovanni
I have read similar advise in regards to training. I will hold off on buying a sword until I figure out if I will become serious about training or if I will just be collecting. I will take your advise to regards to training if that is what I do. And I think I will stay away from the Hanwei swords. Thanks!
Originally Posted by TCMONKEE
Know where i can get one in a bambo stick?
If you are looking for a wall hanger then try e-bay under bamboo sword, should be a bunch of them for pretty cheap, but then, the sword quality is reflected by the price.
If you are looking for something decently made, off hand I only know of the bamboo stick katana by Hanwei - paul chen factory, and will cost you around $400.00. Here is an example:
http://888knivesrus.zoovy.com/product/PC1002GT
It should be nothed that the hanwei version is not real bamboo, but rather wood cut and laqured to simulate bamboo. This is because bamboo makes a poor material for koshirae because it is technically a grass and thus not dense enough. Nevertheless, overall it is a nice looking piece.
Good luck
Here is another video for those interested. The guy performing the cuts is James Williams from Bugei Trading Company in CA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwUn0...elated&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwUn0...elated&search=
Originally Posted by kgzero
Thanks Giovanni! That did help. So, I would assume that folded steel is more expensive, right? Which of the three (kendo, kenjutsu or iaido) be easier to begin for someone not in shape (I'm not obese or anything, just out of shape)?
kenjutsu would be the most physically demanding, because 'jutsu' indicates practice of the raw technique. the 'do' in kendo indicates a more artful interpretation of 'ken', the sword, or in this usage, swordsmanship.
I'm sure that the physical demand of any style would depend on the teacher, and that any of the three listed would be very challenging at higher levels. The beauty of these systems is that it is usually understood that a beginner will come to the first practice with many ideas as to what will happen, and it is necessary to take ample time to convince the beginner that they are truly beginners. This means that whatever you were to choose, provided you find the right teacher, your practice will increase in difficulty as you become more fit.
that being said, I would recommend you add aikido to your list of styles to investigate. The sword is at the heart of nearly every movement in aikido, and it is a very graceful, gentle art that is very receptive to newcomers. I would hazard a guess that most people walking into a kendo, kenjutsu, or (especially) iaido dojo have a martial arts background of some sort.
If you wanted to PM me, and tell me where you live, I would give you a list of good teachers in your area.
Originally Posted by Giovanni
Originally Posted by kgzero
What up Gio,
I wanted to know what your opinion is on the Paul Chen Katanas. I see a lot of mixed opinions, actually, on all production swords in general. I was looking around and the Paul Chen Tsunami caught my eye.
I wanted to know what your opinion is on the Paul Chen Katanas. I see a lot of mixed opinions, actually, on all production swords in general. I was looking around and the Paul Chen Tsunami caught my eye.
Now with that out of the way, the tsunami is a good mid-range blade suitable for light to medium cutting. It will cost you in the neighborhood of $500.00 and is a decent blade. Hanwei blades are production blades that have been known to have poor quality control at times. Places like bugei.com who have their own line of blades with Hanwei charge a premium price for their blades but have far better quality control, but every now and then a sub par blade slides by. The most important thing to do if find a retailer that has a good exchange policy for defects. I have had good dealings with www.888knivesrus as he is based in Jacksonville FL where I frequently visit.
The other thing I want to cover is your intentions. If you intend to get formal training I urge you to hold off on the purchase of a blade as your instructor will be key in you ultimate choice of blade. If you intent to make a purchase for collection or self training, which I dont reccomend but its common, then I suggest you find a retailer near you with blades in stock for you to feel. Some blades will feel better in your hand as weights and POB (point of balance) vary from sword to sword.
My suggestion is to first determine your budget and then find every possible blade that fits your price range, and go from there.
Keep me updated
Giovanni
Originally Posted by farberio
Originally Posted by Giovanni
Originally Posted by kgzero
What up Gio,
I wanted to know what your opinion is on the Paul Chen Katanas. I see a lot of mixed opinions, actually, on all production swords in general. I was looking around and the Paul Chen Tsunami caught my eye.
I wanted to know what your opinion is on the Paul Chen Katanas. I see a lot of mixed opinions, actually, on all production swords in general. I was looking around and the Paul Chen Tsunami caught my eye.
My suggestion is to first determine your budget and then find every possible blade that fits your price range, and go from there.
Keep me updated
Giovanni
Originally Posted by Giovanni
Originally Posted by farberio
Originally Posted by Giovanni
Originally Posted by kgzero
What up Gio,
I wanted to know what your opinion is on the Paul Chen Katanas. I see a lot of mixed opinions, actually, on all production swords in general. I was looking around and the Paul Chen Tsunami caught my eye.
I wanted to know what your opinion is on the Paul Chen Katanas. I see a lot of mixed opinions, actually, on all production swords in general. I was looking around and the Paul Chen Tsunami caught my eye.
My suggestion is to first determine your budget and then find every possible blade that fits your price range, and go from there.
Keep me updated
Giovanni
I practice Kum-do (Kendo (kenjutsu sorta), but my instructor is Korean). So I use 'sticks' and 'Mokum' instead of Shinai and Bokken. I have a friend that practices Iaido, with Iaito...and then a new friend that trains in Germanic broadsword...
Freaking termanology...
Originally Posted by farberio
Originally Posted by Giovanni
Originally Posted by farberio
Originally Posted by Giovanni
Originally Posted by kgzero
What up Gio,
I wanted to know what your opinion is on the Paul Chen Katanas. I see a lot of mixed opinions, actually, on all production swords in general. I was looking around and the Paul Chen Tsunami caught my eye.
I wanted to know what your opinion is on the Paul Chen Katanas. I see a lot of mixed opinions, actually, on all production swords in general. I was looking around and the Paul Chen Tsunami caught my eye.
My suggestion is to first determine your budget and then find every possible blade that fits your price range, and go from there.
Keep me updated
Giovanni
I practice Kum-do (Kendo (kenjutsu sorta), but my instructor is Korean). So I use 'sticks' and 'Mokum' instead of Shinai and Bokken. I have a friend that practices Iaido, with Iaito...and then a new friend that trains in Germanic broadsword...
Freaking termanology...
Funny that I just got back from spending a few hours with a co-worker at his armor teacher's house. They all do kenjetsu and I saw them practicing just a little for some demo they're doing in a couple of days. And I got to see the shop were they make armor and some weapons. There were swords here and there all over the house, mostly medival type stuff. It was awesome.
Originally Posted by Happybonbon
Funny that I just got back from spending a few hours with a co-worker at his armor teacher's house. They all do kenjetsu and I saw them practicing just a little for some demo they're doing in a couple of days. And I got to see the shop were they make armor and some weapons. There were swords here and there all over the house, mostly medival type stuff. It was awesome.






