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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 01:27 AM
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I really think people just make ____ up to sell drugs. I don't know who's really doing it, but someone is making some serious bank on what appears to be just a ton of BS.

I've been seeing commercials lately for some new drug called Mirapex. What is it for? Restless Legs Syndrome.

Ya, that's right, Restless Legs. Here's a Wikipedia article if you want some sort of specific info.

My biggest problem is the drug... Mirapex. Here are the "side effects" besides the usual nausea, vomiting, etc...
When beginning to take MIRAPEX, you should be cautious until you know how the drug will affect you. Some people who take MIRAPEX can become sleepy or fall asleep while doing normal everyday activities like driving a car. It is possible that MIRAPEX treatment can cause someone to feel faint or become dizzy when standing up from a seated or prone position. There are reports of some people having hallucinations (seeing, hearing, feeling, smelling, or tasting something that does not actually exist) while taking MIRAPEX. However, hallucinations are uncommon in people taking MIRAPEX for primary restless legs syndrome and occur more frequently in people over 65 taking MIRAPEX for Parkinson’s disease.

There have been reports of patients taking certain medications to treat Parkinson's disease or RLS, including MIRAPEX, that have reported problems with gambling, compulsive eating, and increased sex drive. It is not possible to reliably estimate how often these behaviors occur to determine which factors may contribute to them. If you or your family members notice that you are developing unusual behaviors, talk to your doctor.
WTF?! So your legs won't shake, but you'll become a fat, horny, gambling, narcoleptic. Great...
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:11 AM
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Old Jul 17, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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ack154 have you have RLS? Do you know what it's like?

You may thinks it's just some stupid thing where people can't keep their legs still but it is actually a real condition and people who have this can't sleep at all. It has nothing to do with moving your legs alot but rather the feeling of spiders etc crawling on your legs and just enough to not let you sleep.

My fiance's father maxed out that drug and still has problems sleeping. He gets up atleast three times at night because it so bad.

Unless you've actually experienced it next time why don't you laugh to yourself if you must.
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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Trust me, I do laugh at myself. I just think it gets a bit ridiculous when the drugs to "help" something can really cause more problems than what you're originally dealing with.

And I have no doubt that there are people that really do have this condition and it probably is not funny at all... but just like ADD and many other of these syndromes and disorders, I'd be willing to bet that maybe 1/3 of the people actually diagnosed with it, actually have it and really do need something for it.
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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I work for the lawfirm that represents the company that makes this drug and I've worked on some of the legal documents regarding cases involving this drug. There are so many lawsuits on it already its not even funny.
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ack154
Trust me, I do laugh at myself. I just think it gets a bit ridiculous when the drugs to "help" something can really cause more problems than what you're originally dealing with.

And I have no doubt that there are people that really do have this condition and it probably is not funny at all... but just like ADD and many other of these syndromes and disorders, I'd be willing to bet that maybe 1/3 of the people actually diagnosed with it, actually have it and really do need something for it.
Both are true with nearly all disorders and syndromes and the drugs that treat them, though the symptoms are rare and don't scare me. The only drug whose side effects scare me is Alli .
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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Speaking of made up diseases, one of these days I'm going to call in sick and tell the boss I have **** Glaucoma.



I just can't see my @ss coming in to work today.
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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WTF?! So your legs won't shake, but you'll become a fat, horny, gambling, narcoleptic. Great...


That's me already.....except my legs don't shake....
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmanatee
WTF?! So your legs won't shake, but you'll become a fat, horny, gambling, narcoleptic. Great...


That's me already.....except my legs don't shake....
usually when someone's fat they are already those things (not so much the narcoleptsy) so I'll take my chances.
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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That came out alot more mean than I was expecting so I'm sorry if I offended anyone
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Haha... ya, that did sound kind of bad. But I'm sure if someone looked at it statistically, you're probably right anyways.
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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It'll be great day when they take the pharma ads off of the boob-toob. But it'll also be an Ice Trucker type day in hell, so I won't exactly hold my breath.......although they did manage to get cigarette adds off the air, so maybe there's a bit of hope.
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by scionofPCFL
It'll be great day when they take the pharma ads off of the boob-toob. But it'll also be an Ice Trucker type day in hell, so I won't exactly hold my breath.......although they did manage to get cigarette adds off the air, so maybe there's a bit of hope.
Ya... that would make me a little happier. Not that I watch a ridiculous amount of TV... but drug ads are some of the worst. If they didn't come off as trying to scare people into thinking they have things they don't, I wouldn't have as much of an issue with them. But now there are so many paranoid people that think they have diseases or problems that they really don't.

Sure, it's good to get the word out about new conditions or disorders... but lets not act like 4 out of 5 people have it or something and everyone needs to get on some medication right away...
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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I'm sort of against people going to the doc to order their scripts. Just like I'm sort of against horses pushing carts....Somethings just work better when done in the proper sequence.
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ack154
Trust me, I do laugh at myself. I just think it gets a bit ridiculous when the drugs to "help" something can really cause more problems than what you're originally dealing with.

And I have no doubt that there are people that really do have this condition and it probably is not funny at all... but just like ADD and many other of these syndromes and disorders, I'd be willing to bet that maybe 1/3 of the people actually diagnosed with it, actually have it and really do need something for it.
Yup some drugs do have more worst side effects/reactions than the condition they're trying to treat but people have different reactions to different drugs some people nauseated/vomiting/allergies/chest pain or whatsoever some will be taking it for years doing fine. And you're right there's a lot of newly discovered syndromes/conditions where some call it BS, but these are product of research. Of course new diagnosis, new drugs (where business comes in.. ) Often times though these new syndromes are actually just symptoms of pre-existing medical disorder or common condition like poor circulation, nervous disorder and ect... they just make up a new name too it then comes a new drug..
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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I could probably be diagnosed with RLS but I agree that it is not a disease. It's just nerves. You just gotta learn to calm yourself and relax and you'll do just fine. Same with ADD, not a disease. It's called improper control of one's self (usually from bad parenting). My brother has a friend with it. Every kid I've encountered that supposedly has it just has bad parenting. It takes me all of 5 seconds to get the kids to behave. Drugs are not the answer.

AIDS is a disease. Cancer is a disease. ADD and RLS are not.
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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Disorders/Syndromes/Disorder/Condition these terms maybe used synonymously but by strict definitions, they are different.. New drugs maybe effective with some of these new diagnosis but I agree doesnt mean drugs are the only treatment and like the example ADD posted above drugs will help but emotional/psycholgical factors plays a huge role. Symptoms of RLS is often related to other disorders too thus misdiagnosis is could be common, plus RLS is not fully understood yet and could possibly more of symptom than a condition
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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the first time your kid discovers pockets in his pants, what's the next thing he needs? something to put in them.

you ever hear the story about the brothers who owned a dwindling auto glass shop? they drove around the neighborhood at night with a bb gun.

I agree with ack that while the conditions may exist, the drug companies go to great lengths to make household names out of the conditions.

I would guarantee you that there is at least one condition with a higher incidence rate than RLS. Hypochondria.
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Just remember, there ain't no money in the cure, it's all in the treatment.
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Originally Posted by cherryBox
.I would guarantee you that there is at least one condition with a higher incidence rate than RLS. Hypochondria.
Very well said.. so true.

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