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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archi...-aero-xwd.html

Thinking about Getting a Saab Turbox

What are your guys Opinions on the Car ?
Old Dec 17, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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I don't have any personal experience with Saab. I've heard mixed reviews from friends and coworkers who have had them. The people who get "a good one" absolutely love them and swear by them. But the people who do have problems with them seem to have a lot of problems. I don't know how durable the turbo is for long-term. With that said, I did get a chance to sit in a new one at a car show and it was hands-down the most comfortable car I ever sat in. I really liked the design and looks of it.
Old Dec 17, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Yea thats what I have heard my self, Here are some Specs

Base price $42,510-$43,310
Vehicle layout Front-engine, AWD, 5-pass, 4-door sedan and wagon
Engines 2.8L/280-hp/295-lb-ft turbocharged DOHC 24-valve V-6
Transmissions 6-speed manual, 6-speed automatic
Curb weight 3700 - 3900 lb (mfr)
Wheelbase 105.3 in
Length x width x height 182.5-183.2 x 69.0-69.4 x 56.4-60.6 in
0-60 mph 5.5 - 5.7 sec (est)
EPA city/hwy fuel econ 16-17 / 27-29 mpg (est)
CO2 emissions 0.93 - 0.99 lb/mile
On sale in U.S. Currently
Old Dec 17, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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The Saab Turbo takes energy from exhaust and recycles it. At least that's what the commercial tells me.

Gotta love them trying to explain a turbo and make it sound green.
Old Dec 17, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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get it!!!
Old Dec 17, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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The Saab 9-3 has never been a fierce player in its segment, lacking the killer instinct of some of its more formidable rivals, namely the Audi A4 and BMW 3-series. Sure it offers a pair of turbocharged power plants, including a range-topping 255-horsepower V-6, but its Achilles heel lies up front, as in front-wheel drive -- a feature that can diminish dynamics and degrade feel.

2008 Saab Turbo X Front Three Quarter View
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So how's a small Swedish brand to arm its bestseller for the future? By harking back to the past, of course.

Say hello to the Turbo X, a limited-edition 9-3 (only 600 for the U.S., in either sedan or wagon body styles) that pays homage to the 1985 Saab 900 SPG, a classic coupe known for its trademark black exterior treatment, three-arm alloys, and turbo engine. Thus, the Turbo X comes dressed in one hue -- metallic black -- and is treated to twin-spoke three-arm wheels and a robust 280-horse turbocharged V-6 that, thanks to 11.6 psi of maximum boost (up from 8.7 for the Aero's 255-horse 2.8 turbo) makes the X the brawniest 9-3 ever. More important, the X's 280 horses are routed via not the front wheels but rather all four, courtesy of a new Haldex 4 all-wheel-drive system. Touted as an active system (power to the rear is pre-emptive, not requiring front-wheel slippage), the Haldex unit is complemented by a rear electronic limited-slip differential (eLSD) that apportions torque side-to-side for a yaw damping effect. The result is the best-handling 9-3 to date -- oversteer is more prevalent and easier to maximize, and the overall balance borders on neutral. Moreover, torque steer has been all but quashed.

2008 Saab Turbo X Interior
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Of course, there's more to the X than its ebony duds and all-wheel drive. Saab enlarged the four-wheel disc brakes (13.6 inches front, 11.5 rear), lowered the ride height by 0.4 inch, and stiffened the springs and dampers all around. Inside, carbon-fiber accents, black leather seats, and a replica of the 900 Turbo's boost gauge complete the treatment.

Can't swing the price tags? Happen to be buyer 601? No worries -- the X's all-wheel drive and eLSD will be available on the slightly less-powerful and less-expensive Aero. If, however, you're able to mark your spot with an X, then rest assured that Saab's history holds traction in the future.
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Whats steering you to the Saab rather than say an IS350? The AWD? I'd say 250 but it's junk.

Audi S4 isn't too far off the price of the Saab, and one can always be had used.

Or my personal favorite in the price range, the 335xi. Thats what i'd go for if I wanted a decent performance sedan for 40g's with AWD.

Other options (less appealing to me) SRT8 300C, Pontiac G8, etc. Lots of cars in your ballpark, why the Saab?
Old Dec 18, 2008 | 05:33 AM
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pffft audi s4 get the audi RS6 instead with 572hp and carbon brakes and its a wagon to boot!
Old Dec 18, 2008 | 06:04 AM
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Theres 335i's that do 0-60 in like 4.5 seconds. Pretty comparable for much less $$$.

But the RS6 Sedan is a beautiful car.
Old Dec 18, 2008 | 06:39 AM
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I would really look at potential resale for Saab's before you drop almost $45K (options, tax, fees) on an exclusive vehicle.

Unfortunately, Saab does make nice & comfortable cars, but appraisers wouldn't typically regard Saab to the same QC standards as BMW no matter what the individual car. In their eyes, a turbo Saab is a turbo Saab.

Test drive a 335i sedan with a sport package like this one in White Marsh.

Search 5234378 on carmax.com

I don't know how far White Marsh is from Laurel, but I'd go drive it and feel the differences in interior and attentiveness to detail BMW puts in to their automobiles.

Hope my opinion helps you.
Old Dec 18, 2008 | 06:50 AM
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having owned turbo Saab s before...they are always awesome
Old Dec 18, 2008 | 07:05 AM
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pros: Saabs are magic in the snow (swedish cars rule there)-they have been doing turbo's forever too so lots of background. They are abloutely solid cars too. They tend to be heavy but quick anyway.

Cons: They are not cheap to fix. They are partners with Ford so there might be some ford feeling switches, plasticy stuff but I know it depends a lot on the model too.

The others: Lexus/Toyotas are bomb proof as we all know-BMWs are bombs waiting to happen (they have so many weird problems right now-anything from 2001 to now) the dealers keep all sorts of warranty parts in stock and it's necessary stuff sometimes like HVAC controls/switches, heater cores, lights and switches.

Audis are great!
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I thought they were parters with GM. I dont want a BMW/Audi/Lexus/Toyo cause they are not Unique enough.

The BMWs/Audi especially are Douches cars lol.
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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get a volvo another great swiss car
Old Dec 19, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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i was considering that, hmmm
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If you want a unique car for 40grand, but an Elise, lol

Don't see many of those.

But if you're looking for the best car for the money i'd still say the 335xi. Who cares if it's a douches car. Put some baller wheels on it, tint, etc and you can set yourself apart.
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elise isn't good in the snow what so ever
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Hey, got to sacrifice the winter driveability for uniqueness.

Also it isn't AWD. Bah. That would be mighty useful in MD right now too, haha
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Few Questions Before I buy

Basically, I am looking at a Demo Model from the dealership. Apparently it was driven by the Dealer Owner and never anyone else and I just want to make sure I am not getting a highly abused car before I buy it.

What can I check/look for to make sure that the car has not been abused etc.

What should I tell them to go before I go pick up the car.

Is there Any Recommendations in general on NOT Buying a TurboX

Any known issues with them ?
What are the advantages etc.

Just trying to cover all aspects before I make the Plunge since I am getting a Pretty good deal

It has 1500 Miles on it, never been sold so its technically still brand new.

I would be getting it for 38500 plus tax and tags (is that a good enough deal?) This is for the Manual W/ Nav Fully Loaded. MSRP = 46100

Thanks for any help I can get.

Just trying to make a good buy



the Car Pricing = 46k

They are taking off only 4k for incentives that I qualify for (would be 7 if i own a gm product have a lease etc)

SO that = 42k Then they are taking off about 4k or so for it being a 08 and having Miles.

I do not qualify for all the other incentives.

So is 38k or so still a good price even with Miles or should I tell them to go lower ?



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