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Old May 29, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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In a nutshell, scientists are on the verge of creating life from nothing and writing genetic code for cells the same way we write programs from computers.

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In the past, genetic wizardry has been confined to tinkering and tweaking what nature has already produced—taking a gene from a bacterium, say, and inserting it into the chromosomes of corn or pigs. What we're talking about is producing life that is wholly new—not in any way a genetic descendant of the primordial Mother Cell. The initial members of each newly created breed will have no ancestors at all.
And once a biodevice is designed and properly fabricated, the hard work is over—its users can instruct it to make as many copies of itself, by itself, as are needed. Biodevices could churn out any imaginable pharmaceutical drug, including ones that are impossible to produce by traditional chemistry, or are prohibitively expensive today. Similarly, they could create any other kind of chemical or polymer for the production of plastics, real wool or silk—at a fraction of today's costs—or other structural and functional materials that have yet to be conceived. Other biodevices could act as sensitive environmental biosensors, programmed to detect and degrade specific toxic organisms, such as anthrax, or to glow in the proximity of a biological, chemical or radiological weapon.
Venter and Church are eyeing an even bigger prize: a self-sustaining, highly efficient biological organism that converts sunlight directly into clean biofuel, with minimal environmental impact and zero net release of greenhouse gases. What would an ideal biofuel-generation system look like? "The most sustainable source of energy is sunlight and the most convenient products are pipeline-compatible petrochemicals," says Church. "So I would aim for a perennial plant system that secreted pure chemicals—octane, diesel, monomer for plastics, etc.—into pipes without need for further purification."
Old May 29, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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Yep... stuff like this always makes me wonder how much humanity could accomplish were our efforts not misplaced with war, etc...
Old May 29, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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if you guys like this, you guys shold read discovery, scientific america or popular science.

I was reading about coverting pig stem cells into sheets of meat just this morning. it's too expensive now, but it already works. Turns out the hardest part about it, was if you make pure muscle, it's just a glob of goo until you exercise it. So there's a big machine stretching and contracting the pig meat.
Old May 29, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by seattledave
if you guys like this, you guys shold read discovery, scientific america or popular science.

I was reading about coverting pig stem cells into sheets of meat just this morning. it's too expensive now, but it already works. Turns out the hardest part about it, was if you make pure muscle, it's just a glob of goo until you exercise it. So there's a big machine stretching and contracting the pig meat.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Thing about those rags is the topics they discuss are pretty far off pure science, which is cool and all, but the key thing here, is that they are less than 2 years away from pay dirt on a malaria treatment that will be dirt cheap and more effective than any drug.
Old May 29, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by scionofPCFL
In a nutshell, scientists are on the verge of creating life from nothing..
That's not quite true:
"They've forged chemicals into synthetic DNA, the DNA into genes, genes into genomes, and built the molecular machinery of completely new organisms in the lab—organisms that are nothing like anything nature has produced."
They have manipulated existing matter in to a new compound or form. Although much more complex, it's no different than turning a liquid to a gas by boling water. You "create" a new form of matter, but you used existing matter to do it.
Old May 29, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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Ok, let's put this way, they are on the verge of turning inanimate matter into life. Turning chemicals into self-replicating cellular organisms with programed genetic code.
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Awww heck... it had to go here sometime...

Isn't that technically what god did? He created Adam from existing matter right?

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Old May 29, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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I'm thinking I want a tee-pee made of bacon.
Old May 29, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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My point is that everyone considers that making life from nothing so why not give a little credit where it is due? This is huge and it seems petty to minimize such accomplishments.
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Originally Posted by citizen01
Awww heck... it had to go here sometime...

Isn't that technically what god did? He created Adam from existing matter right?
That's correct. He spoke the universe into existence, and he formed man from dust. What's your point?
I do think what the scientists are working on is pretty awesome stuff.
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Originally Posted by matt_a
Originally Posted by seattledave
if you guys like this, you guys shold read discovery, scientific america or popular science.

I was reading about coverting pig stem cells into sheets of meat just this morning. it's too expensive now, but it already works. Turns out the hardest part about it, was if you make pure muscle, it's just a glob of goo until you exercise it. So there's a big machine stretching and contracting the pig meat.
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x2 well said! i believe it! i can have an army of me? sweet....
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i was kind of hoping that this was some sort of online computer game
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Everyone on this thread needs to check out Will Wright's "Spore" game
Old May 29, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by duck_dodgers_24_5
i was kind of hoping that this was some sort of online computer game
Sure does sound like it from the title. I must say, I think I'd really like a game called "Playing God, Life 2.0". It sounds very Sims-ish.
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^Will Wright, maker of the upcoming "Spore" game (which has you evolve a single celled organism into a complex animal albe to launch into space), is the creator of simcity and the sims.
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Originally Posted by Jenna
Originally Posted by duck_dodgers_24_5
i was kind of hoping that this was some sort of online computer game
Sure does sound like it from the title. I must say, I think I'd really like a game called "Playing God, Life 2.0". It sounds very Sims-ish.
What? You think I'm kind of n00b that doesn't know what board to post snit to or something? Bah!
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