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Oh great, Fox News's "War on Christmas" has spread to this forum...
WHO THE *$!% CARES?! I don't worship Christ nor do I like this time of year, but I could give two turds how people greet me at a public place. The whole thing is extremely retarded.
WHO THE *$!% CARES?! I don't worship Christ nor do I like this time of year, but I could give two turds how people greet me at a public place. The whole thing is extremely retarded.
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BEFORE READING THIS PLEASE REMEMBER THAT I MEAN EVERYTHING I SAY RESPECTFULLY. PLEASE DO NOT BASH ME OR MY VIEWS JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT THEN YOURS.
I respectfully disagree with you and here is why...(if i understood you correctly)
Separation of church and state is where the government cannot mandate who, what where, why, when and how people go to church and whatnot. When the 'Pilgrims' left England they left because they wanted to worship their God. They did not want to be part of the Roman Catholic church. They wanted to set up their own counrty where they could worrship who, what where, why, when and how they wanted. Our country allows everyone to worship (or not worship) whatever they want. By me not being able to say merry christmas AT ALL (anytime, anywhere) I would say that,my rights as and American born citizen are being infringed upon. However Since it is a company policy that I can't say merry christmas then it is not infringing on my rights. It is just their policy and you can either accept it or find a new job. I see no one all upset because they can take a gun to work even though our constitution states "Right to bear Arms."
I agree with you on the point that the whloe point of leaving europe and founding the USA was to get away from the religious rules/ties/laws. And they did. However those that originally came over from europe had the same thing in mind. Freedom from a state controlled church. Yes they did set up there own church and make their own laws that were backed by their religion but they were all in agreement. No one said that they must only have one religion. There are actually many different religions that came to America.
TRY LOOKING AT IT THIS WAY:
Unlike many countries around the world, the United States mandates full religious freedom in its Constitution. No government official or politician can tell you which faith to follow. That very personal decision is made by each individual. Without this right to worship as we see fit, Americans would not be truly a free people.
Separation of church and state is good for religion.
The United States is one of the most religious nations on earth. The overwhelming majority of Americans say they believe in God, and many attend worship services regularly. In contrast, in some European nations where religion still gets government support, interest in faith is falling, and many people no longer go to services.
Separation of church and state is good for families.
Thanks to the separation of church and state, you are in complete control of the religious upbringing of your children. Government institutions, including the public school system, are not permitted to coerce your children to adopt new and different religions.
Separation of church and state is good for taxpayers.
Many colonial-era Americans were strongly opposed to taxation to support government-favored churches. They vehemently resented being forced to turn over their hard-earned money to support religions whose doctrines they considered wrong or even dangerous.
Separation of church and state is good for America.
Few countries have as much religious diversity as ours. One scholar of religion has estimated that 2,000 faith groups and denominations are active in America.
Is not one of the big messages in the founding of our country also "there should be separation of church and state" (i wish this were true) nothing tough to understand about that...if someone is against "god" being stated somewhere you should be smart enough to understand it is against the basic principles of what the USA was founded on to begin with.
Separation of church and state is where the government cannot mandate who, what where, why, when and how people go to church and whatnot. When the 'Pilgrims' left England they left because they wanted to worship their God. They did not want to be part of the Roman Catholic church. They wanted to set up their own counrty where they could worrship who, what where, why, when and how they wanted. Our country allows everyone to worship (or not worship) whatever they want. By me not being able to say merry christmas AT ALL (anytime, anywhere) I would say that,my rights as and American born citizen are being infringed upon. However Since it is a company policy that I can't say merry christmas then it is not infringing on my rights. It is just their policy and you can either accept it or find a new job. I see no one all upset because they can take a gun to work even though our constitution states "Right to bear Arms."
I dont like the whole religious stuff in the pledge personally, BUT I dont see the big deal in trying to spend so much time and effort to change it.....it never hurt me so big deal. (just dont say it SHOULD be there, it should not)
but...as someone else stated before, the whole point of people leaving europe and founding the USA was to get away from the religious rules/ties/laws...so we get away from it then turn around and use it?????? backwards!!
but...as someone else stated before, the whole point of people leaving europe and founding the USA was to get away from the religious rules/ties/laws...so we get away from it then turn around and use it?????? backwards!!
TRY LOOKING AT IT THIS WAY:
Unlike many countries around the world, the United States mandates full religious freedom in its Constitution. No government official or politician can tell you which faith to follow. That very personal decision is made by each individual. Without this right to worship as we see fit, Americans would not be truly a free people.
Separation of church and state is good for religion.
The United States is one of the most religious nations on earth. The overwhelming majority of Americans say they believe in God, and many attend worship services regularly. In contrast, in some European nations where religion still gets government support, interest in faith is falling, and many people no longer go to services.
Separation of church and state is good for families.
Thanks to the separation of church and state, you are in complete control of the religious upbringing of your children. Government institutions, including the public school system, are not permitted to coerce your children to adopt new and different religions.
Separation of church and state is good for taxpayers.
Many colonial-era Americans were strongly opposed to taxation to support government-favored churches. They vehemently resented being forced to turn over their hard-earned money to support religions whose doctrines they considered wrong or even dangerous.
Separation of church and state is good for America.
Few countries have as much religious diversity as ours. One scholar of religion has estimated that 2,000 faith groups and denominations are active in America.
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Originally Posted by progression
what do you put your right hand on when you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth when youre on the stand in court? why dont the people that are constanly whining about these issues say "im offended by having to put my right hand on a bible. can i just pinky swear?"
also, the phrase "under god" was added to the pledge well after it was written.
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i could give a flying F--k what its called............i dont like having to buy gifts for people, or feel obligated to others for anything.........
I think honestly people are more _____y, rude and inconsiderate during this season. today i was at the mall, and some stupid housewife with her one kid in her excursion flipped off an undercover cop becuase he was driving too slow in the parking lot and she missed the nearest stall, needless to say the cop made an example of her in front of about 50 people, including her kid. anyways............tis the season to be an _______. it seems
I think honestly people are more _____y, rude and inconsiderate during this season. today i was at the mall, and some stupid housewife with her one kid in her excursion flipped off an undercover cop becuase he was driving too slow in the parking lot and she missed the nearest stall, needless to say the cop made an example of her in front of about 50 people, including her kid. anyways............tis the season to be an _______. it seems
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Originally Posted by Kilo6_one
I think honestly people are more _____y, rude and inconsiderate during this season..........tis the season to be an butthole. it seems
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