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Old Feb 11, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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So guys, if you could design your own car or hope to have ___ car come out, what would it be?

I'll start to give you an idea of what i'm asking.

- 2 door hatchback (true hatchback)
- 2.0l (n/a) or 2.2l (f/i)
- 9,100rpm redline (n/a) or 7,800rpm redline (f/i)
- 220hp and 150tq (n/a) or 290hp and 205tq (f/i)
- AWD standard with both models
- five speed trans standard with an optional close ratio six speed (for both models)
- standard high performance clutch (both)
- overbuilt trans and internals (both)
- 11:1 piston compression (n/a) and 8:5:1 compression for (f/i)
- $22,500 (n/a)
- $25,000 (f/i)
- Car built completely in Japan



Your turn, what would be your ideal/perfect car thats not already in production. Personally, i would go with the n/a version of a car like this but i threw in a boosted version to please others.
Old Feb 11, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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bump bump bump
Old Feb 11, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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3.7 liter inline 6
255 hp with about 300 ft-lbs of torque N/A
11.5:1 compression ratio
3 spd automatic or a 4spd manual
rwd 8.75" rear axle with lots of gear ratios for the rear dif from 2.45:1 2.76:1, 2.93:1, 3.23:1, 3.55:1
hilborn fuel injection intake system
all for about $5K
Old Feb 11, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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SUPRA is the perfect car.

sexy body

3.0 liter twin turbo

RWD

Toyota Quality
Old Feb 11, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hornet_on_the_flower
3.7 liter inline 6
255 hp with about 300 ft-lbs of torque N/A
11.5:1 compression ratio
3 spd automatic or a 4spd manual
rwd 8.75" rear axle with lots of gear ratios for the rear dif from 2.45:1 2.76:1, 2.93:1, 3.23:1, 3.55:1
hilborn fuel injection intake system
all for about $5K
Very old school, too bad that $5,000 price tag you would never see.
Old Feb 11, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TheQuietThings
SUPRA is the perfect car.

sexy body

3.0 liter twin turbo

RWD

Toyota Quality
Aw, common you can't be original? Oh well, the Supra is supposed to come back with a v6 and v8 option. So i guess your in luck.

Keep them coming! I'd like to see some more original's though.
Old Feb 11, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by killerxromances
Originally Posted by hornet_on_the_flower
3.7 liter inline 6
255 hp with about 300 ft-lbs of torque N/A
11.5:1 compression ratio
3 spd automatic or a 4spd manual
rwd 8.75" rear axle with lots of gear ratios for the rear dif from 2.45:1 2.76:1, 2.93:1, 3.23:1, 3.55:1
hilborn fuel injection intake system
all for about $5K
Very old school, too bad that $5,000 price tag you would never see.
buy the car for 2K

and the other 3K for the engine rebuild, hilborn fuel injection and tranny and rear end
Old Feb 11, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by hornet_on_the_flower
Originally Posted by killerxromances
Originally Posted by hornet_on_the_flower
3.7 liter inline 6
255 hp with about 300 ft-lbs of torque N/A
11.5:1 compression ratio
3 spd automatic or a 4spd manual
rwd 8.75" rear axle with lots of gear ratios for the rear dif from 2.45:1 2.76:1, 2.93:1, 3.23:1, 3.55:1
hilborn fuel injection intake system
all for about $5K
Very old school, too bad that $5,000 price tag you would never see.
buy the car for 2K

and the other 3K for the engine rebuild, hilborn fuel injection and tranny and rear end
Oh okay, good call then.
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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Modern Mazdaspeed Cosmo

- Sport (Semi-luxo) Sedan
- 2.0 liter 3-rotor wankel turbo
- 10,000rpm redline
- 350+hp 350+tq
- AWD/AWS
- Close ratio six-speed
- $35K-45K price range

Impreza WRX 25B STi

- Two-seater sport hatch
- 2.5 liter turbo boxer-4
- 7,000rpm redline
- 330hp/330tq
- Symmetrical AWD -w- DCCD, All-Wheel Steering
- Close ratio six-speed
- ~$32K price tag

I'd also like to see:
2007 Lotus Exige
- 1 2ZZ-GE
+ 1 worked K20A (supercharged or NA)
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 09:32 PM
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2.0L Turbo diesel or FSI
2 dr hatch
AWD
~250hp
6spd
~15K

hell a cheap mkIV GTI euro-tuned would suite
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Skunk
Modern Mazdaspeed Cosmo

- Sport (Semi-luxo) Sedan
- 2.0 liter 3-rotor wankel turbo
- 10,000rpm redline
- 350+hp 350+tq
- AWD/AWS
- Close ratio six-speed
- $35K-45K price range

Impreza WRX 25B STi

- Two-seater sport hatch
- 2.5 liter turbo boxer-4
- 7,000rpm redline
- 330hp/330tq
- Symmetrical AWD -w- DCCD, All-Wheel Steering
- Close ratio six-speed
- ~$32K price tag

I'd also like to see:
2007 Lotus Exige
- 1 2ZZ-GE
+ 1 worked K20A (supercharged or NA)
25B STi is such a drool-over for me as well. Same with the STi wagon.
Old Feb 14, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by killerxromances
Your turn, what would be your ideal/perfect car thats not already in production. Personally, i would go with the n/a version of a car like this but i threw in a boosted version to please others.
Ladies and Gentlemen - The CUV (cross-over utility vehicle)
- 4 door hatchback (like the box)
- 2.6l (4 or 6 cyl, take your pick)
- 7500rpm redline
- 185hp and 145tq (n/a)
- FWD standard and optional AWD
- Auto trans standard with an optional close ratio six speed
- high performance clutch standard with six speed
- overbuilt trans (for towing under 2000Lbs)
- 10:1 piston compression (around there abouts)
- $15,500 - $23,000
- 17" rims and GOOD performance tires standard
- Car built completely by elves (none of these mythical japanese folk people talk about)
- Standard cruise control
- Standard cabin air filter
- A good stereo that is not tied to any safety features whatsoever (damn GM/Ferd)
- Adjustable height arm rest with storage capacity
- Optional turbo/supercharger factory installed

The look: similar to the box or a slammed SUV. Essentially more like the box but a smidge wider (about 3 - 5") and a smidge more room in the cargo (less than a foot but substantial amount). Oh yeah, drop the roof down by 2". Done.

Forced injection? Nope, not my car but make it optional at least for the freaks.
Old Feb 14, 2006 | 01:37 AM
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Small 4 door, slightly smaller than a TSX or about the size of my old Nissan Stanza. RWD, 6-speed, 2.5 - 3.0 L I-6 and an Audi-caliber interior.....all while keeping the weight as low as possible.
Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by killerxromances
25B STi is such a drool-over for me as well. Same with the STi wagon.
I assume you've seen the Prodrive P2 concept?

STi engine tuned to 350hp -w- AWD, an Anti-Lag System (AKA Backfiring or Bang-Bang System), and active handling, jammed into a 2400lb coupe.

Oh. Dear. God.

Screw Lotus, I want one of these.

http://www.prodrive.com/copynews.asp...8&M=10&IID=&S=

http://www.prodrive.com/copydefaultf...sp?M=10&CID=12
Old Feb 14, 2006 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Skunk
Originally Posted by killerxromances
25B STi is such a drool-over for me as well. Same with the STi wagon.
I assume you've seen the Prodrive P2 concept?

STi engine tuned to 350hp -w- AWD, an Anti-Lag System (AKA Backfiring or Bang-Bang System), and active handling, jammed into a 2400lb coupe.

Oh. Dear. God.

Screw Lotus, I want one of these.

http://www.prodrive.com/copynews.asp...8&M=10&IID=&S=

http://www.prodrive.com/copydefaultf...sp?M=10&CID=12
Oh yes i've seen and read allllll about it.
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 01:47 AM
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Since we're talking about the perfect car, I assume price is no object... so I'd take an Aston Martin Vanquish S, but I'd replace the flappy paddle gearbox with a normal manual 6-speed.

But assuming Aston refused to replace the gearbox, I'd take a V8 Vantage instead.

--mark
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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Anyone seen the Bugatti Veyron 16.4?
8.0 liter W 16
Quad (yes, FOUR) turbo
All wheel drive
250 MPH top speed
Gets less than 3MPG at full throttle in top gear

Yeah, price would have to be no object. Anyone lend me about $2,000,000?
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by captainlaziness
Anyone seen the Bugatti Veyron 16.4?
8.0 liter W 16
Quad (yes, FOUR) turbo
All wheel drive
250 MPH top speed
Gets less than 3MPG at full throttle in top gear

Yeah, price would have to be no object. Anyone lend me about $2,000,000?
Actually, its $1,250,000, 1,000hp (sae: 996hp i believe), top speed 256mph but the motor and drivetrain can handle 300mph according to what i've heard from Bugatti. It cost Bugatti $3,500,000 to design and make each one, they make absolutely zero profit. They plan to make a cheaper one that will be expected to be under $250,000 that will also have extreme technology.

Jay Leno has one on order.
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So the building of the perfect car?

The specs:

Exterior:
Over all width = 72"/1829mm
Over all length = 180"/4572mm
Over all height = 60"/1524mm
Unloaded ground clearance = 5"/127mm
Curb weight = 2,970LBs/1350kg

Interior:
Max front head room = 39"/990mm
Max rear head room = 37"/940mm
Max front leg room = 42"/1067mm
Max rear leg room = 36"/914mm
Cargo with rear seats up = 28cu.ft
Cargo with rear seats down = 70cu.ft

Misc:
Body Type = 4 Door Passenger Wagon.
Fuel tank size = 15gallons
Wheel and tire size = 235/45R17 with a total rolling weight of 38lbs a corner.

Engine:
Displacement = 3.0L/180ci
Number of Cylinders = 6
Arangement = V style at 25* angle.
Number of Valves = 30
Aspiration = Supercharger
Max HP = 230@6,400rpm
Max TQ = 218@2,300-3,900rpm
Redline = 7,000rpm
Electronics = Self adjusting timing for best power and fuel economy. Advanced cylinder technology shuts off 2 cylinders when performance is not needed.
Fuel Type = 91 minimum.
EPA #'s = 26mpg city / 34mpg highway.

Transmission:
Type = 5spd Automatic with tiptronic shift ability and an economy or performance setting while not using tiptronic.
Drive Wheels = Part time AWD with advanced technology. Power can be split from 100% front to 100% rear depending on conditions.

Suspension:
Type = Electronicly controlled independent 4 wheel set up.
Front Brakes = 318mm x 30mm slotted rotors with 4 piston aluminum calipers.
Rear Brakes = 280mm x 22mm slotted rotors with 2 piston aluminum calipers.

Performance:
0-60 = 5.7 sec.
0-100 = 17 sec.
70-0 = 120ft.
Roadholding = .92g
Top Speed = 125 (Electronicly Controled)

Features:
All the good stuff you would need or want. Power Windows with driver & passenger 1 touch up down setting. RKE system & Alarm. Automatic climate control. HID headlights. LED tail lamps. 60w Fog Lights. Car computer to monitor tire pressure, fuel economy etc. Blue insturment cluster lighting. Heated seats and heated mirrors. Total of 5 cupholders. Front air bags, with side air bags & curtain air bags all around. 4 wheel independently controled ABS with Auto Brake Force System and stability control.

MSRP: $25,995
Location built: Designed and built with a co partner ship of german & japan enginering.
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Good topic. But I have my perfect car. Like the other guys said above my 2nd perfect would be 84' supra.



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