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From: S C I O N E T I C S
Originally Posted by Mooneyzs
Originally Posted by n2htwlz
Originally Posted by Just1n
Originally Posted by boomster
All new SA Memebers that have put in request on scionlife have been approved. Also dont forget to add your name to the SA CLUB AREA on Scionetics.....
Originally Posted by scionetics
STop embarrassing your loser car club.
First off I want to say that I have never had any beef with anyone from the community and have always gotten along with everyone.
Second I want to say from my understanding Mark had set up Scionetics as a place to post for meets and things that were going on here in the valley, as well as for dealers to be able to check innovatory on vehicles. Scionetics was never intended to be a club. Mark please comment if I am right or wrong. And If I am wrong I will apologize.
As I stated before I am sad to see the Phoenix scion community go down hill so to speak. I don't know about anyone else but I miss the good ole days when we were meeting up at random parking lots just to hang out. I am tired of seeing drama go on between our community. I have also heard from a few sources that Randy has stated that he is tired of the drama as well. I am sure that we have lost people cause of some of this drama. I want you to know that I am not pointing fingers at anyone or any car club. I just hated seeing the fact that we had a pretty tight group and for it to go down the drain. I also know as big as phoenix is and how the community was growing that people would branch off and start their own clubs. I think it’s great to see that happening. We have a lot of talent and a lot of nice Rides here and a lot of great people.
I don't know what the rest of you think but I just had to voice my opinion. I am just tired of seeing this go on. Can this community be fixed and go back to the good ole days?? You may agree with me and you may not. You also may like me or you may not. I just had to get this off my chest of how I have been feeling.
Clubs are what they are and, no matter what you ask or hope for, personalities are going to add color or flavor. Sometimes humor doesn't come across very well online and we all need to remember that when a post hits us the wrong way.
Also, the person posting as "Scionetics" does not speak for Scionetics.com. What they said in the other thread was their own opinion.
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Originally Posted by n2htwlz
Alot of us in SA would love for it to be back to the way it was in the good ole days. We still hang out every saturday in various parking lots around the valley. There seems to be alot of owners who have moved on to other things and dont come out anymore but new owners seem to pop up and come out almost every weekend which is awesome.
If that is the case then why doesnt SA attend events other than their own little get togethers, Avondale or open car shows? Why doesnt SA publically invite people to come hang out with them? Why doesnt SA plan open events to hang out. Why doesnt SA do more for the community than just themselves? Why doesnt SA show why they are SA. Same goes for Scikotics.
Right now you are two little cliques who do nothing more than hang out on your own forums and hang out at members houses or by yourselves. You have no status or respect within the community or outside of it. When is SA and/or Scikotics gonna have an event to benefit the people of this community without the help of their respective dealers doing it for them? When is SA or Scikotics gonna put their heads together and create and event together. When is Scikotics gonna invite SA to events they attend and vice versa.
Both clubs speak of no drama, being respectful, getting along in a large community and wanting the old days back, but nothing is happening.
I am NOT attacking anyone and if you take it like that you are completely wrong, but I have to agree with Mooneyz here. The community has been gong down hill as a whole and there is not much participation as a whole community since the formation of Scikotics and SA. There are three groups saying they want to function as one, the other being the non club members but for some reason everyone cant.
I think it time for all of us to put up or shut up sort of speak. If you are serious about hanging out, getting along, attending events together then do it. If not that is your choice and decision, but at least we will know where you stand by your actions. Talk is cheap.... I propose that we start acting like a community WITHOUT the little jabs, assumptions and coincendence calling against each other and act like adults who care about the community, the people, the cars and the Scion way.
Randy - You are a person with a lot of influence on two fronts. One the Randode business and two SA. Then I am challenging you to do more for the community other than modding someones car. also to work Scikotics on being a better community and socialize.
Jason aka Kiss - I am challenging you to be more in the forefront of the Scikotics car club and show us that you are committed as a club to attend events, Help in the community, socialize and work with SA.
I'm challenging both of you and your clubs that you BOTH can attend the same events, dealer events and parking lot meets and getting along with each other and the non club members.
You guys speak of the mystery rider like he/she is bad thing? Personally I think they hit a lot of things right on. We now have even more power as a WHOLE with the addition of Avondale Scion, SA, Scikotics joining in involvement along with Camelback. Why cant we use, manipulate, promote and grow from all these resources?? We are foolish if we dont. There is more potential than ever now and we are just ____ing it away.
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