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on a more serious note...as much as i may get flamed for this i don't care....i always wondered if cops ever used confiscated drugs or anything?
i know i know "they're evidence" but u can get weed anywhere....
Just a thought i'm waiting for the heat of the flames!!!
i know i know "they're evidence" but u can get weed anywhere....
Just a thought i'm waiting for the heat of the flames!!!
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Well I dont use drugs and haven't used drugs in over ten years now, Hey, I was young too once. The truth is that most people have used drugs early in there lives or have atleast tried it.
Funny thing is that when we confiscate drugs (mainly weed) we all look at each other and say "Dam, doesn't that smell good" , "Hell yea" I remeber when..................
It would be stupid for any cop to use drugs since we get ____ tested randomly and with out notice.
ScionCop
Funny thing is that when we confiscate drugs (mainly weed) we all look at each other and say "Dam, doesn't that smell good" , "Hell yea" I remeber when..................
It would be stupid for any cop to use drugs since we get ____ tested randomly and with out notice.
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Had Lunch?
Try this little funny.
A buddy of mine stops a car and goes through the usual routine-License, Reg Insurance.
My buddy goes back to his cruiser and begins to run a check on the drivers papers. At this time a code 3 (lights n sirens) medical call is broadcasted so my buddy runs back out of his cruiser and hands the driver back his papers. My buddy says "Your all set" and takes off light s and sirens to his medical call.
After the medical call my buddy goes back on patrol and continues to work his shift. Approximately 4 hours later, dispatch radios a message to him saying that the dude is still waiting for him at the car stop. My buddy is like WTF!!!!
When my buddy goes back he asks whatare you still doing here?
The driver was hearing impaired, never heard my buddy and waited the 4 hours. The driver said that he was scared to leave and didn't want to get arrested.
My buddy felt so bad for the dude that he bought the guy Lunch.
ScionCop
A buddy of mine stops a car and goes through the usual routine-License, Reg Insurance.
My buddy goes back to his cruiser and begins to run a check on the drivers papers. At this time a code 3 (lights n sirens) medical call is broadcasted so my buddy runs back out of his cruiser and hands the driver back his papers. My buddy says "Your all set" and takes off light s and sirens to his medical call.
After the medical call my buddy goes back on patrol and continues to work his shift. Approximately 4 hours later, dispatch radios a message to him saying that the dude is still waiting for him at the car stop. My buddy is like WTF!!!!
When my buddy goes back he asks whatare you still doing here?
The driver was hearing impaired, never heard my buddy and waited the 4 hours. The driver said that he was scared to leave and didn't want to get arrested.
My buddy felt so bad for the dude that he bought the guy Lunch.
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thanx for all your help ! I got a citation and marked the box for a hearing . My problem is i have a cinderrella liscense, and when they gave it to me a year ago they told me dont get any tickets or well take it away . So you see my dilema. When i got the xb i got three tickets in a month ,and a half period. One year no tickets one month xb - three tickets. Well anyways , one was going thru a yellow light but the cop said it was red ,and put me down for failure to obey stop signs or failure to stop something like that. That one i just paid becuz i already had the two court dates in process for the other two tickets. So far i still have my liscense. The other one is for chirping my tires but they put me down for illegal operation 90-16 a 50.00 dollar ticket ,and the speeding wit the three boxes checked off on the ticket was a 150.00 dollar ticket marke as a 90-18 50 in a 35 mph zone
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Originally Posted by juicy
thanx for all your help i got a citation and marked the box for a hearing my problem is i have a cinderrella liscense and when they gave it to me a year ago they told me dont get any tickets or well take it away so you see my dilema when i got the xb i got three tickets in a month and a half period one year no tickets one month xb three tickets well anyways one was going thru a yellow light but the cop said it was red and put me down for failure to obey stop signs or failure to stop something that one i just paid becuz i already had the two court dates in process for the other two tickets so far i still have my liscense the other one is for chirping my tires but they put me down for illegal operation 90-16 a 50.00 dollar ticket and the speeding wit the three boxes checked off on the ticket was a 150.00 dollar ticket marke as a 90-18 50 in a 35 mph zone
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Originally Posted by SCIONbrouillard
Originally Posted by juicy
thanx for all your help i got a citation and marked the box for a hearing my problem is i have a cinderrella liscense and when they gave it to me a year ago they told me dont get any tickets or well take it away so you see my dilema when i got the xb i got three tickets in a month and a half period one year no tickets one month xb three tickets well anyways one was going thru a yellow light but the cop said it was red and put me down for failure to obey stop signs or failure to stop something that one i just paid becuz i already had the two court dates in process for the other two tickets so far i still have my liscense the other one is for chirping my tires but they put me down for illegal operation 90-16 a 50.00 dollar ticket and the speeding wit the three boxes checked off on the ticket was a 150.00 dollar ticket marke as a 90-18 50 in a 35 mph zone
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Juicy / Tickets
Juicy you got problems. And to be honest it starts with "you". I can't help you. Like i have told several others. This thread is to help and assist you in staying out of violation, not to find ways to cheat the system.
True I can guide you so that you can minimize your damages but seeing that even you are telling me that your constantly getting pulled over, you keep choosing to fall into violation.
All I can say is good luck. ScionCop
True I can guide you so that you can minimize your damages but seeing that even you are telling me that your constantly getting pulled over, you keep choosing to fall into violation.
All I can say is good luck. ScionCop
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Muffler / Exhaust
This is by Ct statutes, NE states follow similiar or same laws. Thanks for waiting, very busy today.
14-80(a) Unnecessary or Unusual noise Fine &78.00
Oper of MV without preventing unusual noise
14-80(b) Improper Muffler Fine $78.00
1-Oper MV lacking muffler designed to prevent unecessary / unusual exhaust noise
2-Oper MV with device to amplify noise of MV, or straight exhaust or muffler that lacks baffles, or other effective muffling device, gutted or cut out
14-80(b) Removal of Muffler Fine &78.00
Oper MV with muffler removed
14-80(c) Excessive Fumes or Exhaust smoke Fine $78.00
MV not equiped or adjusted to prevent excessive fumes or exhaust smoke
14-80(d) Failure to comply with exhaust pipe requirements Fine $78.00
(Many regs I'll type this on request)
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14-80(a) Unnecessary or Unusual noise Fine &78.00
Oper of MV without preventing unusual noise
14-80(b) Improper Muffler Fine $78.00
1-Oper MV lacking muffler designed to prevent unecessary / unusual exhaust noise
2-Oper MV with device to amplify noise of MV, or straight exhaust or muffler that lacks baffles, or other effective muffling device, gutted or cut out
14-80(b) Removal of Muffler Fine &78.00
Oper MV with muffler removed
14-80(c) Excessive Fumes or Exhaust smoke Fine $78.00
MV not equiped or adjusted to prevent excessive fumes or exhaust smoke
14-80(d) Failure to comply with exhaust pipe requirements Fine $78.00
(Many regs I'll type this on request)
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From: Ontario, CA
Originally Posted by djct_watt
Hey, I know what that guy was talkin about with the reflector. . . at least if it is the same as the xA.
Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, in CA, signal and tail lights must be amber, and the law specificially stated that the the color may NOT come from the bulb.
Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, in CA, signal and tail lights must be amber, and the law specificially stated that the the color may NOT come from the bulb.
24600. (e) Taillamps shall be red in color
24953. (a) Any turn signal system used to give a signal of intention to turn right or left shall project a flashing white or amber light visible to the front and a flashing red or amber light visible to the rear.
This one is hard to interpret:
Color of Lamps and Reflectors
25950. This section applies to the color of lamps and to any reflector exhibiting or reflecting perceptible light of 0.05 candela or more per foot-candle of incident illumination. Unless provided otherwise, the color of lamps and reflectors upon a vehicle shall be as follows:
a) The emitted light from all lamps and the reflected light from all reflectors, visible from in front of a vehicle, shall be white or yellow, except as follows:
(1) Rear side marker lamps required by Section 25100 may show red to the front.
(2) The color of foglamps described in Section 24403 may be in the color spectrum from white to yellow.
(b) The emitted light from all lamps and the reflected light from all reflectors, visible from the rear of a vehicle, shall be red except as follows:
(1) Stoplamps on vehicles manufactured before January 1, 1979, may show yellow to the rear.
(2) Turn signal lamps may show yellow to the rear.
(3) Front side marker lamps required by Section 25100 may show yellow to the rear.
(4) Backup lamps shall show white to the rear.
(5) The rearward facing portion of any front-mounted double-faced turn signal lamp may show amber to the rear while the headlamps or parking lamps are lighted, if the intensity of the light emitted is not greater than the parking lamps and the turn signal function is not impaired.
(6) Reflectors meeting the requirements of and installed in accordance with Section 24611 shall be red or white, or both.
(c) All lamps and reflectors visible from the front, sides, or rear of a vehicle, except headlamps, may have any unlighted color, provided the emitted light from all lamps or reflected light from all reflectors complies with the required color. Except for backup lamps, the entire effective projected luminous area of lamps visible from the rear or mounted on the sides near the rear of a vehicle shall be covered by an inner lens of the required color when the unlighted color differs from the required emitted light color. Taillamps, stoplamps, and turn signal lamps that are visible to the rear may be white when unlighted on vehicles manufactured before January 1, 1974.
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/...htsandlighting
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Vehicle Searches?
ScionCop,
I have heard that an officer needs a warrant to search the trunk of a vehicle (assuming the driver does not consent). If this is true, how does this apply to a tC, or any other scion, where the "trunk" is not separate from the interior of the car. Can an officer search the trunk saying it is inside the passenger compartment, or do they actually need a warrant even though it can be reached from within the car? Thanks for your insight.
I have heard that an officer needs a warrant to search the trunk of a vehicle (assuming the driver does not consent). If this is true, how does this apply to a tC, or any other scion, where the "trunk" is not separate from the interior of the car. Can an officer search the trunk saying it is inside the passenger compartment, or do they actually need a warrant even though it can be reached from within the car? Thanks for your insight.
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KomikTC / Searches
Dam good question. I even had to confirm it with our top Narcotics guy.
A liftback / Hatchback rear area of the vehicle is not considered a "secured trunk".
Also a vehicle with non-locking split fold rear seats with access to the rear can be accessed so long as it's with in the scope of an Officers investigation. A reasonable expectancy or non-expectancy of privacy applies to this kind of search.
Legit searches are done with consent, probable cause, or incident to an arrest.
Consent-With permission
Probable Cause-Facts and or circumstances exist that would enable a search. This could include human senses (sight, smell, hearing ect).
Incident to Arrest- If your arrested your vehicle is open to a complete search and or inventory of the vehicle.
"Scope of a search" relates to what the Officer is looking for. Example:
If an Officer is looking for a stolen stereo then the glove compartment is off limits.
It would be considered unreasonable that a stereo would be in the glove box.
The general rule is the bigger the item were looking for the less we can do, the smaller the item the more we can do.
If you can find a way to secure (lock) your rear areas then you would be considered to have a greater expectancy of privacy. Therefore offering you more protection under the Law.
ScionCop
A liftback / Hatchback rear area of the vehicle is not considered a "secured trunk".
Also a vehicle with non-locking split fold rear seats with access to the rear can be accessed so long as it's with in the scope of an Officers investigation. A reasonable expectancy or non-expectancy of privacy applies to this kind of search.
Legit searches are done with consent, probable cause, or incident to an arrest.
Consent-With permission
Probable Cause-Facts and or circumstances exist that would enable a search. This could include human senses (sight, smell, hearing ect).
Incident to Arrest- If your arrested your vehicle is open to a complete search and or inventory of the vehicle.
"Scope of a search" relates to what the Officer is looking for. Example:
If an Officer is looking for a stolen stereo then the glove compartment is off limits.
It would be considered unreasonable that a stereo would be in the glove box.
The general rule is the bigger the item were looking for the less we can do, the smaller the item the more we can do.
If you can find a way to secure (lock) your rear areas then you would be considered to have a greater expectancy of privacy. Therefore offering you more protection under the Law.
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Kidnapping
Well, were up to no good again. A couple of days ago we Kidnapped our Sargents favorite pen. The pen was given to him by his mother when he graduated the Police Academy.
We took the pen andleft a Polaroid picture of the pen holding a sticky note (Posted) saying "Help me, I been kidnapped". A ransom note was also left. Terms '5 Coffies for the pen at Dunkin Donuts on 7-18-04"
We gave the pen to the Dunkin Donut store clerk (God bless her) and instructed her not to rat us out. The Sargent had to purchase the coffies and then she could give him back the pen.
Last night the transaction went down. The Sargent begged the clerk to tell him who took the pen but she refused to tell him. The Sargent then bought the coffies and to our surprise a Donut to go with each Coffe.
We snuck into the store when we knew the Sargent was on theother side of town to get out delicious treats.
Here's the kicker. We found out that the store clerk actually double crossed by offering the sargent Video footage of us going intot he store to collect our ransom. The Sargent now has the video and will be presenting his Donut Case in Roll Call on tuesday. Dam we got busted.
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We took the pen andleft a Polaroid picture of the pen holding a sticky note (Posted) saying "Help me, I been kidnapped". A ransom note was also left. Terms '5 Coffies for the pen at Dunkin Donuts on 7-18-04"
We gave the pen to the Dunkin Donut store clerk (God bless her) and instructed her not to rat us out. The Sargent had to purchase the coffies and then she could give him back the pen.
Last night the transaction went down. The Sargent begged the clerk to tell him who took the pen but she refused to tell him. The Sargent then bought the coffies and to our surprise a Donut to go with each Coffe.
We snuck into the store when we knew the Sargent was on theother side of town to get out delicious treats.
Here's the kicker. We found out that the store clerk actually double crossed by offering the sargent Video footage of us going intot he store to collect our ransom. The Sargent now has the video and will be presenting his Donut Case in Roll Call on tuesday. Dam we got busted.
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Next Mission
This "Super Secret, Dare, Prank Mission" has been presented but it's very "iffy" if it gets done.
The Mission is to plant a Cannabis Seed (Marijuana) in the flower pot of the Cheifs Secretary.
Who ever does this Mission will be considered the King. Problem is that it may involve criminal charges and not only Administrational discipline.
I will keep you posted on the status of this one. Its a long shot.
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The Mission is to plant a Cannabis Seed (Marijuana) in the flower pot of the Cheifs Secretary.
Who ever does this Mission will be considered the King. Problem is that it may involve criminal charges and not only Administrational discipline.
I will keep you posted on the status of this one. Its a long shot.
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Re: Donut Cases
Originally Posted by Eddie8124
Funny that you mention donuts David. We are playing spy games on each other with donut vendors in our area and just about everybody is in on it.
Vendors keep tab on which cops are buying Donuts in there stores (mainly Krispee Creams). Vendors / store clerks take names, pictures and video surveilance cameras are a special item.
We handle the information like if it were an Official Investigation. In roll call we crack on each other and post any "Donut Statistics" on the bulletin board. Who ever gets caught red handed is buying rounds on the weekend.
We have a good evidence guy and he's the zaniest of us all. He has crumb collections, vile samples of jelly stains, powdered donut finger print samples, crime scene pictures (messy cruisers) and so on.
It's a blast. Vendors are now trying to set us up by offering "fresh Donuts". They nabbed two guys last week with video of them eating the Donuts right in the store. We were laughing our asses off when the video was presented in Roll Call.
One day some one put a box of donuts in an interview room that had video surveilance. One cop wearing a mask went into the room and took a donut. We now have an all out investigation on who took it. The evidence guy is actually taking fingerprints and is going to compare them with our employee finger print files. This is getting crazy. Funny as hell too. No one is confessing to the latest Donut ****** and grab.
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Vendors keep tab on which cops are buying Donuts in there stores (mainly Krispee Creams). Vendors / store clerks take names, pictures and video surveilance cameras are a special item.
We handle the information like if it were an Official Investigation. In roll call we crack on each other and post any "Donut Statistics" on the bulletin board. Who ever gets caught red handed is buying rounds on the weekend.
We have a good evidence guy and he's the zaniest of us all. He has crumb collections, vile samples of jelly stains, powdered donut finger print samples, crime scene pictures (messy cruisers) and so on.
It's a blast. Vendors are now trying to set us up by offering "fresh Donuts". They nabbed two guys last week with video of them eating the Donuts right in the store. We were laughing our asses off when the video was presented in Roll Call.
One day some one put a box of donuts in an interview room that had video surveilance. One cop wearing a mask went into the room and took a donut. We now have an all out investigation on who took it. The evidence guy is actually taking fingerprints and is going to compare them with our employee finger print files. This is getting crazy. Funny as hell too. No one is confessing to the latest Donut ****** and grab.
ScionCop