fredmeyer just opened a station near my house and the gas is really cheap 1.88/gal if you have a fredmeyer reward card....just wanted to see everyones thoughts on this

 

i use it sometimes.just kinda depends on how well your car likes it. but that can differ from day to day as they buy fuel from alot of diffrent suppliers. like shell,texaco,conoco phillips,tesoro,whoever has got the lowest price for the day.

 

In my opinion. Gas is gas, though everyone disagrees.

 

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...p+tier#3774831

Or do a search, by post, on top tier with Tomas as the author using the red searh button above...

 

Fred Meyer gas is all I put in the box, it likes it a lot!

 

Never had an issue with there gas. I stay away from the Space Age and the cheap cash only gas places.

 

That's what my wife usually puts in our Avalanche, seems to work ok. I usually put shell in my box cause it's on my way to work.

 

I only feed my xB Chevron unless I am somewhere where I can't get it. Then I go down the list that is very similar to the one Tomas listed.

 

we use Freddy's gas in both our Matrix and the xB never had a problem with either vehicle.

 

tC and the xB get that a lot and have not had any problems. I stay away from Shell, Citco, and Arco. I get the best milage w/ 76, but better performance from FM.

 

(Just remember that Toyota/Scion itself recommends only Top Tier gasoline for the long-term health of their engines. It's not just some stupid idea by a few owners.)

 

Except that almost all gas is exactly the same now. I don't know if it's just this state or what But ALL gas must have 10% ethanol in it now, which is the only reason there was to stay away from some gases. But I do think, and have been told that safeway, and fred meyer gas is the bottom of the barrel. Shell, Arco, Union 76, chevron, are pretty much Identical now. so any perceived difference is purely Imagination.


That being said, every couple of months I run some Techroline? additive through the system to clean things out anyway.

 

^Working with my dad on engines (granted it was 10 years ago), yu could tell who used penzoil &quaker state oils, and shell gas as there were usually deposts in on the valve and usually had chunky oil. Arco from signs of excessive heat, and I won't use Citco on principle.

 

i've been using Shell gas ever since i bought the car and i tried using other gas (76, Chevron, Space Age (the one my ex and their family owns is really Chevron gas because I saw a Chevron truck filling their tanks), and i must say, Shell gives me the best gas mileages...... Chevron, for one, makes my car smell like rotten eggs because of their high sulfur concentration. every time i fill up at Chevron, i get out of my car and i get this blast of rotten egg smell... could be just my car, i dont know why.

i was going to do an experiment at school to see what kind of chemicals are in each type of gasoline... but my teacher didn't want me blowing up stuff and dying

 

Even those fuels that come out of the very same tank at the very same refinery (as many of them do in this state, Redbeard) the ethanol and detergents are added as the fuel is loaded in to the specific trucks to be delivered.

The biggest difference isn't ethanol or not (though percentage does still vary by brand, by grade, and by season in this state), but additive concentration.

Per Toyota, most fuels in the United States do not have enough of the proper detergents to keep the injectors and valves clean in their engines. Again, per Toyota, the US EPA requirements for minimum levels of detergent activity required of all gasolines is only about one half of the level required for long term protection of their engines as shown by teardown inspections.

So, while the performance of the engines will often not differ markedly brand to brand, some gasolines will help keep the engines in better condition over the long haul.

If you do not plan to keep your vehicle for many, many miles, use whatever gas you want - the next guy is going to inherit the problems, anyway.

If you are planning to keep the vehicle for as many miles as you can, use a top tier fuel as recommended by Toyota to extend the engine's service life.

For myself, I plan to keep Vanilla until her little wheels fall off.

Tom

 

I guess I'm just cynical. I think ALL car companies, and GAS companies Lie thier asses off, saying whatever will make them the most money. I mean most of them don't give a Rats ___ about us, they would love it if we bought a new car every year. Some are just better liars/hucksters about it.
I'll probably keep this car longer than most I've owned (usually 3-4 years) As I Love this car more than the others, But I also Paid Cash for this one.

 

I agree with the OIL's making a difference. But I've been told that the additives that some companies add to Gas (detergents) are in such miniscule amounts, that no one can ever tell the difference, and it's the best bet to run a fuel system cleaner (Like techroline) through your car every so often, because it will actually DO something.

 

If I wanted watered down gas I would just go to an Arco station. Chevron FTW

 

I forgot to mention when i questioned the Station attendant about who provides their gas she couldnt find the info, but what she did find was that Fred Meyers gas doesnt have any addatives

 

the gas that is purchased is federally regulated i believe... but the difference is in the additive packages that go into the gas... ie techron or whatever the hell else is out there.