Anybody in the area had a dealer install the TRD S/C on your tC yet? If so, how was your experience, what was the final cost with install, etc? BTW I'm in the Albany/Salem/Corvallis area.

 

about 4G for the cost at our dealership.... I have drivn a S/C car and it has more power.. I did not drive it hard though, others will have to chime in for that kind of feedback.

 

That's not too bad of a price it cost me ~$3k to turbo charge the ZX2...

 

you the one with the fancy blue tC at LBCC the other day?

 

Yeah I drove by the LBCC Friday night on my way home... I've got a nautical blue '07, still with dealer plates on it.

 

I know he's not really in the area but pm Mattvs. He had Rodland (up here in Everett) S/C his he could probly give you some good feedback.

 

Ya we've got a TRD Supercharger but only for the 05-06 so far. We've heard the rumors, and we're hoping to get some for the 07's around December. And of course we have the reflash tool, as that was the concern for some people that wanted quick turnaround on their vehicles.

 

i want it so badly but i would need around 6k for the S/C and the torque differential that came out

 

Well I'm pretty sure that the TRD Supercharger after install is just about $3600. And the LSD I'm not sure about, since we haven't done an install yet.

 

Keep in mind though that this is what I was quoted about 8 months ago, before I was even an employee here, so things may have very well changed since then.

 

Why S/C?.... want to keep the warranty? A T/C is WAY Cheaper for the WHP result... which is much more (I'm 30 over what the S/C puts out only with a stage 0 T/C)... you'll have to modify the hell out of a S/C to make it reasonable... which will void your warranty anyways...

I'm am not a S/C fan solely on the price and the lack of output from it (Honey0Buckets T/C xB will take a S/C tC, which is brutally sad)

Just keep it in perspective... for the money you spend, you won't get that much gain out of a S/C.

 

I already have a turbo vehicle... On 8psi it will put down 220~230whp and run low 13's, maybe high 12's if I can get traction (traps are generally in the 105~106mph range). With that comes lots of maintenance... you have to deal with tuning... etc. I don't want another fast car I have to park for weeks because I'm waiting on something cause it either broke... or the tune is off.

The S/C lets me keep my 100k mile warranty and the tC will be decently quick as my daily driver... and if it breaks Toyota gets to fix it. I don't want to go all out on my DD heh (I learned my lesson with my ZX2).

 

^^ you are so right about the maintenance and waiting for your part to come in because something it broken. Most people don't think about that . I know alot of people that have blown engine because they don't keep up with maintenances with their vehicle

 

with zpi's turbo's. all you have is general maintence...unlesss you plan on boosting the crap out of it. The only people who have blown motors and engine trouble are the idiots who think they can just slap a turbo on and go to town like an everyday car.

im sorry but to drop 4k on somthing that will give your car 30+ more horses...is a BIG waist of money.

 

Rodland Toyota in Everett installed my Supercharger when I got it. I ordered it through TRDSparks for $2997 shipped and it was quoted and installed for $445 before tax.

I never had any problems that could be blamed from the install and mine was the first one they had installed. Nice guys up there. But that is a bit of a drive from Oregon :p


As for the SC vs Turbo...meh, it's been debated to death in the other forums. Each method has their perks.

I was set on the kit from Sound Performance, since it made more power with 7PSI than any of the other kits available (and had a better reputation, imo) but apparently Snohomish, King, Lewis, and some other counties in Western Washington require emissions testing every 2 years. Not exactly a risk I would be willing to take with my only car.


From what you said, you already have a turbocharged vehicle and the scion is your daily driver. The Supercharger is your best choice.

 

Again, refer to the fact I have a 100k mile warranty... I didn't pay for the extended warranty to void it with a turbo kit... Mattvs sees my point... I already have one turbo car that's plenty quick for me to fool around in when I want to, and it can be parked with stuff breaks (and I'm not talking just blown engines).

The tC is the daily driver... and 200hp (which I'm hearing dynos 180~190whp) is not exactly "slow" with the gearing the tC has (shorter than my ZX2 by a bit). And if it breaks... Toyota fixes it while I drive a free rental or w/e the dealership sets me up with. This isn't a T/C vs S/C debate... if I were to go all out it would be the T/C, but for my daily driver... the TRD S/C looks very appealing.

btw Mattvs, I've been up that far north before (probably a 4 1/2 hour drive for me, I usually go to the Tacoma/Auburn area where my buddies live), so if that dealership is highly recommended, I wouldn't mind the drive at all hehe, take some time off from work and enjoy it ;)

 

i understand the whole warrenty thing. i just dont get why you would spend 4grand for 30-40ish horses. then again me being me i dont understand why you'd want a 100k warrenty anyways. i guess im just one to go for hp to dollar ratio? or maybe im power hungry to have a daily driver.

 

Because now I have a ~190whp tC instead of a ~140~145whp tC (whatever the 07's dyno). Which is warrantied for 100k miles...

That's not hard... what was your previous car? Mine was a Ford (hell still have it). I was fixing it plenty when it was n/a. Now it's boosted... I got tired of fixing my daily driver. For ~$3600 I can have a 14 second daily driver and never have to do anything to it but change the oil and fill the gas tank for 100k. I don't *need* a fast daily driver... they tend to guzzle gas, and it's not like I can use that power on my daily drive to work... I was spinning my 17's (w/ pzero nero tires) in second running off the wastegate (5.8psi) unless it was a nice warm day and got my tires hot enough to grip... and have I mentioned how much nicer the tC is as a daily driver? It's more comfortable... quieter... roomier

Well if you're going HP to the dollar... 1999 ZX2 for $5500 in 2003. Exhaust: $400. Short shifter: $120. Custom built turbo setup: $2800. (And getting an SVTF fuel pump since the stock one is pegging: $120 or so).

Heck that's cheaper than what I paid for the tC... And sure... I built a quite a speedy machine (2400lb car 4tw) It just wasn't as comfortable to drive to work every day.

 

Nah.... you can buy a much cheaper car than a FORD as get more WHP... it's just not a comparable option... It's just the fact that the TRD S/C is a rip-off for dollar to WHP gained in terms of aftermarket accessories... but if you know that, and still want it, it's your wallet. And when it breaks (Shaft Seal Broken,
S/C mounts broken, etc.... it happens quite a bit for some reason) and you have to get it worked on.... then your tC will be sitting in a dealership waiting for parts

IF the TRD S/C comes out in December (It was delayed at least 4 times for MONTHS in it's first form, so maybe they'll get it right this time on schedule... who knows) you can spend the cash on it... Just don't expect too much from it... I've seen tCs 1/4 mile with and without a S/C and it wasn't too dynamicly surprising.

You're much better off adding an intake and exhaust, essentially just making it sound nice with a small gain, and driving it the way it was built, than spending 3500+ to run a S/C in it... many people regret the S/C purchase, and those who don't are the ones who have now upgraded it with 9-11 PSI pulleys, Meth, Etc....

But, it all comes down to $$$$, and coming from someone with a few bucks (Somewhere in the 12G range) in his tC.... A penny not spent on your car is a penny well spent.

 

Well I'm not fond of gutted out Civic hatches

And in that case... they supply me with a free beater to beat on til they fix my car

I'm not expecting miracle with the S/C, it'll have plenty more pep for me to drive around. Not looking for 1/4 mile records lol

Well I really haven't heard many people about the S/C really... as for intake exhaust... Injen intake is roughly $300 (I like quality parts, no ebay ____ for me), and a decent exhaust is $500. I'd rather save that towards some real power and keep a stockish sounding car (heck might even do the exhaust anyway, how are they going to void my powertrain warranty for that? lol)

Oh I've spent more than a few grand on the ZX2... it was 140whp/144wtq N/A (stock generally come in at 106whp/115wtq or so) with bolt ons (i/h/e/p) and a chip before it was turbo... I know all about a penny not spent