2009 Toyota Prius: 100 MPG?
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2009 Toyota Prius: 100 MPG?
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Due in two years as a 2009 model, the next Prius is set to be an evolution, company sources say. The hybrid will retain the same basic 1.5-liter hybrid drivetrain. But Toyota is now on a mission to do two things: drive the economy ratings skyward, and cut the associated costs by 20-30 percent.
Toyota was rocked when news seeped out that Honda was planning a low price Fit hybrid for 2008, with the price differential just 200,000 yen (some $1,700) more than the regular gasoline version. So work on the next Prius has redoubled to slash R&D costs and halve Toyota's current hybrid differential of 500,000 yen (some $4,240) to compete.
Honda is currently winning the hybrid image war in Japan with the tiny Insight coupe, which manages 102 mpg in Japan's standard fuel cycle. The Prius is just a whisker behind at 99 mpg (35 km/l). But now comes news that Toyota is determined to hit 40 km/l (113 mpg) with the next Prius. Of course, these are Japanese fuel-economy figures, which will not translate directly to real-world driving conditions in the U.S.
Sources say the next Prius will also be able to run longer and faster in pure electric mode, up to a sustained 30 mph, which will significantly extend its zero-emissions range.
What this means to you: The Prius right now is massive in North America. Imagine what the next one will be like, with even better economy and value.
Toyota was rocked when news seeped out that Honda was planning a low price Fit hybrid for 2008, with the price differential just 200,000 yen (some $1,700) more than the regular gasoline version. So work on the next Prius has redoubled to slash R&D costs and halve Toyota's current hybrid differential of 500,000 yen (some $4,240) to compete.
Honda is currently winning the hybrid image war in Japan with the tiny Insight coupe, which manages 102 mpg in Japan's standard fuel cycle. The Prius is just a whisker behind at 99 mpg (35 km/l). But now comes news that Toyota is determined to hit 40 km/l (113 mpg) with the next Prius. Of course, these are Japanese fuel-economy figures, which will not translate directly to real-world driving conditions in the U.S.
Sources say the next Prius will also be able to run longer and faster in pure electric mode, up to a sustained 30 mph, which will significantly extend its zero-emissions range.
What this means to you: The Prius right now is massive in North America. Imagine what the next one will be like, with even better economy and value.
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100 mpg?!?! I think the oil companies are going to start a blacklist of all those who buy it.. 
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It would be nice to see the price of Hybrids go sown. One reason I wouldn't buy one is that I can get an xB for 9 grand cheaper than a prius. I would spend 2 grand more a year on payments to save 300-500 on gas. That isn't worth it. If you could level out the payments with gas savings and make it a wash it would be worth having a hybrid.
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Originally Posted by javastan
It would be nice to see the price of Hybrids go sown. One reason I wouldn't buy one is that I can get an xB for 9 grand cheaper than a prius. I would spend 2 grand more a year on payments to save 300-500 on gas. That isn't worth it. If you could level out the payments with gas savings and make it a wash it would be worth having a hybrid.
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Yah I am with Desertheat on this one. 60 mile RT for me and if I could get 113mpg at 65mph I would pony up today. 1.50 to get to and from work, .... ah jeah, that would put some cash back in my pocket.
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What is this world coming to!!!!???? 100 mpg!? Do know what that translates into in terms of hp? I'm pretty sure it's a negative number or something. What happened to the good old days (1968-1972)... chevelle, 442, mustang, camaro, etc.
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yeah there was a comparison of corolla vs. prius, which shows how much of a joke the prius claims are.
in actual day-to-day driving tests, the prius got an average of 1 mpg better than the corolla. 39 vs. 38.
the prius is 6k more ubt the corolla has what 35+ more hp, nicer interior, smoother ride, it beats it in every way and in 5+ years that prius would probably cost a hella of lot to fix/maintain. The comparison I read said if you want near the advertised mileage, prepare to accelarate slower than anyone would think and maintain <55 mph.
in actual day-to-day driving tests, the prius got an average of 1 mpg better than the corolla. 39 vs. 38.
the prius is 6k more ubt the corolla has what 35+ more hp, nicer interior, smoother ride, it beats it in every way and in 5+ years that prius would probably cost a hella of lot to fix/maintain. The comparison I read said if you want near the advertised mileage, prepare to accelarate slower than anyone would think and maintain <55 mph.
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Originally Posted by javastan
It would be nice to see the price of Hybrids go sown. One reason I wouldn't buy one is that I can get an xB for 9 grand cheaper than a prius. I would spend 2 grand more a year on payments to save 300-500 on gas. That isn't worth it. If you could level out the payments with gas savings and make it a wash it would be worth having a hybrid.
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gas prices
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gas was under a dollar a gallon in those good old days.
Gas was under a quarter in the good old days!
When I was a kid, I'd walk to the gas station to get gas for the mower. Two gallons of gas and a 12oz Coke was 50 cents!
'Course, I had to walk uphill both ways. In the snow.
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The Prius battery is $0.
It is under warranty for the first 8years or 100,000 miles whichever comes first.
I have yet to keep a car for that long or that many miles.
So if it is under warranty it costs me $0.
Prius is for LA, Chicago heavy traffice urban commute.
The neighbors get around 45 on the highway and
49 to 50 in the city around here.
But they said their milage goes up when they are at up in Chicago for a few days. Matt said almost 53 in the heavy traffic.
It is under warranty for the first 8years or 100,000 miles whichever comes first.
I have yet to keep a car for that long or that many miles.
So if it is under warranty it costs me $0.
Prius is for LA, Chicago heavy traffice urban commute.
The neighbors get around 45 on the highway and
49 to 50 in the city around here.
But they said their milage goes up when they are at up in Chicago for a few days. Matt said almost 53 in the heavy traffic.