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Old 03-28-2006, 01:25 AM
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The all-new Camry Hybrid will have a base MSRP of $25,900 and will reach Toyota dealers this May.

TORRANCE, Calif., March 27 /PRNewswire/ -- Toyota Motor Sales (TMS),
U.S.A., Inc., announced manufacturer's suggested retail prices (MSRP) today
for the all-new and much-anticipated 2007 Camry Hybrid.
The Toyota Camry, the best-selling car in America four years running and
for eight of the past nine years, is completely new for 2007. The world-class
sedan not only redefines global standards for comfort, performance and design,
but also is available, for the first time, with Toyota's Hybrid Synergy Drive.
Toyota extends its hybrid leadership by making its exclusive Hybrid
Synergy Drive available in the 2007 Camry. The Hybrid Synergy Drive System
consists of gas and electric power sources that are complementary and produce
a combined 187 horsepower. This system varies power between gas and electric,
or both, as needed.
The first half of this system consists of a 2.4-liter four-cylinder
Atkinson-cycle engine that generates 147 hp and is coupled to a continuously
variable transmission. The second half of the Hybrid Synergy Drive equation
consists of a small, high torque electric motor that produces 40 horsepower,
an ultra-small inverter with a specially designed compact battery and a
transaxle to provide the economy and seamless performance hybrid drivers seek.
Additionally, the Camry Hybrid is equipped with an "ECO" button that
limits energy consumption by the Heating Ventilating Air Conditioning (HVAC)
system and under certain conditions can help improve fuel economy.
Camry Hybrid comes with a long list of standard features. These include a
tire-pressure monitor system, halogen headlamps with automatic on/off, a
premium JBL audio system with an audio auxiliary jack and Bluetooth(R)
technology, cruise control, a tilt and telescopic steering wheel, an
eight-way-adjustable power driver's seat, a 60/40 split fold-down rear seat,
16-inch aluminum wheels, heated outside rear-view mirrors, dual-zone automatic
climate control heating and air conditioning with a Plasmacluster(TM) ionizer,
micro dust and pollen filter and much more. The Plasmacluster(TM) ionizer
helps reduce airborne mold spores, microbes, fungi, odor, germs and bacteria
inside the passenger cabin.
Because there are situations in daily driving in which the gas engine in a
Toyota hybrid is completely shut down, air-conditioning and power-steering
systems are driven electrically, rather than by the engine. This ensures these
features will continue to operate, whatever the status of the Camry Hybrid's
drive system.
The Camry Hybrid with Hybrid Synergy Drive will yield exceptional fuel
efficiency with preliminary estimated ratings of 40 mpg in the city and 38 mpg
on the highway and 39 mpg in combined driving. Additionally, Camry Hybrid is
expected to be certified as an Advanced Technology Partial Zero Emissions
Vehicle (AT-PZEV), just one of a handful of cars to meet the strict AT-PZEV
standard.
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Toyota cooks up another winner.

Check out the Motor Trend issue this month and see how the two Toyota hybrid sedans overtake the Hondas.
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How's Toyota able to keep the price on these Hydra so low? It's another winner. I'll take this one over the overpriced Honda Accord Hybrid and little Hybrid Civic anytime.
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It's funny with the whole price issue. From what I understand, Toyota took about a $5,000 hit for every first-year Prius sold. Look where it got them though! I can't imagine how well it's going to pay off over the next 20+ years.
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So:

Camry CE Auto: Approx $19000
Mpg 24/33 - So average if even mix of driving = approx 28mpg

Camry hybrid: $25,900
mpg 40/38 - so an average if even mix = approx 39mpg

11 mpg savings for $6,900

For average driving of 12,000 miles per year at $2.50/gal you save approx $300 per year on gas, so it would take 23 years before you saved a penny driving the hybrid. If the price of gas doubled you would start saving in 11.5 years. Even with the current price if you used the best number from the hybrid and the worst from the conventional engine, you come up to 13 years.

Now I realize that they are talking tax incentives, etc, but even if you recieved a $3000 tax incentive and the price of gas doubled today you would still not see any real savings for over 6 years.

I have yet to see one justification for buying a hybrid, ever. I heard one "economist" talk about how in the long run it really saved you money.. but couldnt put the numbers down to prove it. If someone can, then I would be very interested to see it and would have at least SOME faith in the hybrid market.

The only real argument I have heard was resale would be higher... MAYBE. But also keep in mind the technology that is fast growing and becoming more feasible by the day, fuel cells. If they start using them in production cars.. the resale of a hybrid goes to absolutely nothing. I have done research and understand the technology behind the fuel cell and dont see it being that far in the future for us.

The next problem with the hybrid is the fact that most of them never reach the mileage they state. The prius was a failure from day one. I cant count how many accounts of angry customers I have read about that are getting nowhere near the stated mpg.

I am not bashing the companies for building them.. they are trying to do something at least.. but at this point I have seen more an more people wake up and realize they arent saving anything by purchasing them.
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I don't (yet) believe that the hybrid is truly a savings method either. As any hybrid owner will tell you though, "It's a statement." The "greenies" are saving the planet, not their bank account.
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You do realize that the same equipped Camry is NOT a CE model. Try XLE 4 cyl. With the HV build package the price is with in a $1000 or so of the hybrid. Gas cost will equalize the cost after 3-5 years depending on miles driven per year. That ignores the tax incentives. Hybrid makes the most sense for a heavy urban driver. i.e. LA or most places in SoCal, Boston to D.C. corridor , Chicago loop commuters, and other stop and go major population centers. Rural drivers should not get one. Toyota's own chief engineer drove one of the finshed preproduction models form San Diego cross country to D.C. and averaged 36 MPG real world. Not bad since the hybrid is not at its best in long distance drives, but not great enough when the 4cyl Camry gets 33MPG.
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