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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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Despite its success in the US with a new generation of so-called 'Generation Y' consumers, Toyota's Scion youth brand is not right for Europe right now, according to a senior Toyota adviser who helped set up the brand while working at the automaker's California headquarters.

Ex-Toyota Motor Sales US president Yoshimi Inaba told delegates at the IESE Business School's Automotive Sector conference in Barcelona that Toyota's market share in Europe is around 5% which compares with 16% in the US and 45% in Japan. The higher share markets are the ones that need 'a little stimulation' to create additional sales for Toyota, Mr Inaba said.

He acknowledged that conceptually Scion could work in Europe, but pointed out that there are practical obstacles to reproducing the Scion 'shop-in-shop' dealer distribution model in Europe. In the US, Scion cars are sold through a dedicated area in existing Toyota outlets.

"Dealer size in Europe is too small for shop-in-shop and it would cost too much to invest in a separate showroom," he said

Mr Inaba said that the Scion brand in the US had exceeded sales targets with 171,000 units sold last year.

The brand had been successful in taking Toyota to a new section of the market according to Mr Inaba, with the average age of a Scion buyer of just 29 years - almost 20 years younger than that of the average Toyota brand customer.

Toyota's Scion brand was first rolled out in 2003 in California with the xA model, aimed squarely at a rapidly emerging young demographic cohort in the US. Customisation of the vehicles - as a form of personal expression - is an important brand attribute, along with single spec and a non-traditional marketing approach (which includes a no-haggle and transparent 'pure price').

The boxy xB was soon added and the sporty tC coupe arrived later.

'Generation Y' refers to those born in the 1980-1994 period, following on from 'Generation X' (born 1965-1979) and post-war 'baby boomers' (born 1946-1964).

Inaba described how Toyota customers' median age in the US grew older as baby boomers aged, creating room for a new brand appealing to younger consumers.

In 2010 Generation Yers will represent 25% of the driving age population in the US, moving to 40% in 2020, while 142m people in the US are currently under the age of 35. Inaba said Gen Y'ers are highly educated and affluent, and will be reaching driving age at the rate of four million per year for the next 10 years.

"It was therefore seen as critical that we succeed with these young customers just as we did with their parents," Inaba said.

"The Toyota brand resonated with boomers, but it did not resonate with youth. It may have respected Toyota as a brand, but Gen Y simply does not want to drive the same brand as their mom and pop drive."

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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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lol

I know that XA in Europe is Toyota Ist you can also upgrade it to 4wd and choose from 1.5 and 1.8 l engines
Old Nov 29, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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i love scion. i hope they make that truck for next year.
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im taking my tc overseas next year, im shipping it to hamburg, then im driving to croatia this is part of my vacation hahah i guess il be the first!
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Probably would nor do well because those Top Gear guys would get inside of it and say "this car its rubbish, apauling in everyway"
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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Most all of our cars are rubbish compared to theirs. The attention to detail is much more important to them.
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Vredinka
lol

I know that XA in Europe is Toyota Ist you can also upgrade it to 4wd and choose from 1.5 and 1.8 l engines
Only in Japan ;) There is no Scion like toyotas in EU ;)



im taking my tc overseas next year, im shipping it to hamburg, then im driving to croatia this is part of my vacation hahah i guess il be the first!
If you think you wil be first one in EU with Tc - your totaly wrong :D There are atleast 100 Tc only in my country (imported from US) and i can not even imagine how much of them are all around other countries :D
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according to motor trend, it's called Daihatsu Materia in EU
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Originally Posted by my_cubicle_part2
according to motor trend, it's called Daihatsu Materia in EU
New Toyota bB (the new looking one in Japan, not the boxy version) is called Daihatsu Materia, yes. But the 1gen bB/Xb - doesnt have analog in EU.
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[quote="doggy"]
Originally Posted by Vredinka
lol

I know that XA in Europe is Toyota Ist you can also upgrade it to 4wd and choose from 1.5 and 1.8 l engines
Only in Japan ;) There is no Scion like toyotas in EU ;)

i know that in russia and some other surrounding countries - there are they sell them there. i guess import from japan
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[quote="Vredinka"]
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Originally Posted by Vredinka
lol

I know that XA in Europe is Toyota Ist you can also upgrade it to 4wd and choose from 1.5 and 1.8 l engines
Only in Japan ;) There is no Scion like toyotas in EU ;)

i know that in russia and some other surrounding countries - there are they sell them there. i guess import from japan
In Russia - they have almost all the cars imported from Japan, you can find all the posible cars there - cuz they dont care LHD / RHD car, there are no Law about RHD cars...
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[quote="doggy"]
Originally Posted by Vredinka
Originally Posted by doggy
Originally Posted by Vredinka
lol

I know that XA in Europe is Toyota Ist you can also upgrade it to 4wd and choose from 1.5 and 1.8 l engines
Only in Japan ;) There is no Scion like toyotas in EU ;)

i know that in russia and some other surrounding countries - there are they sell them there. i guess import from japan
In Russia - they have almost all the cars imported from Japan, you can find all the posible cars there - cuz they dont care LHD / RHD car, there are no Law about RHD cars...
i guess that is the reason
ps. i'm from latvia ;)
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Nice to see some one else from Baltic side ;)
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the scion was sold in UAE as TOYOTA XA
http://www.drivearabia.com/toyota/toyotaxa.html
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and i'm taking my tc to eurpoe for good cause i going back this year only few of those in my country ...
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