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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 05:22 AM
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lol this car 25k or 22k ? no way in hell at least no where near as optioned out as this one is.
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Just another car that wont come out. Just like the t2b.
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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I think it's kewl, but doubt it will look like that when it actually comes out. I agree on a RWD coupe and can't wait for redesigned xB next year, with xA to follow.

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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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cool pics of the FUSE...can see the scale of the car
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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I like it. I'm not crazy about the styling (actually I like that Nissan concept or the Azeal the best...), but I'm loving the fact that they're making a coupe with practicality in mind. The main draw to my tC wasn't the speed/handling, but rather the fact that it was a good looking car with a LOT of versatility. The features, price, and the fact that with the back seats down it holds a ton of stuff really sealed the deal. I'm glad that they're looking at keeping up that versatility aspect in the new coupe, and hope that it makes it into production (for whatever replaces the tC...).
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Boxer_Rebellion
Seeing as this car is positioned around 10k less than a 350z I don't think it was designed to be a competitor.

I never said it was. I said Toyota needs to produce a car that can compete and stop with all these concepts that are really nothing but garbage.
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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___ ___ ___ ___

the fact that they have this character on the page is evidence of this.



Cars with excessively hip lifestyle marketing suck. The Honda Element is good evidence of "youth marketing" gone wrong. The Element coincidentally appealed with 50 year olds and is a slow mover for Honda.

This concept should die. RWD is interesting, but they are not understanding the youth/tuner market correctly. Way to go. "how rockstar" how edgy and blunt...yet conformist and not refreshing. Buy this concept, get a free trucker hat!

The Mazda concept is much more appealing to me, as they are focusing on the car, and not the lifestyle.
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where does it state rwd? i bet it won't be if it ever comes out. oh and might wanna watch the whole calling everything "___" makes you sound like an immature homophobe.

cars with excessively hip lifestyle marketing suck? really is that why you have a tc?


moded , lol
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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The point is, I dont like the direction and marketing of that concept car. Politically correct or not as calling it ___ might be. In fact, Homosexuals tend to have more taste and maturity than that gimicky thing, so perhaps that was indeed the wrong misnomer. But this is a discussion about the "FUSE", which isn't very 'explosive'. **** explosion perhaps.

I got my tC because it was inexpensive, a practical commuter, had many features and is still a "Toyota". Sure, Scion's a youth oriented brand, but the youth marketing isn't driving all of the sales.

Seriously though, did you look at the character they had on Scion's Press Release web page? That K-Fed looking doofus is supposed represent the target demographic of the car.

I'm pretty sure the FUSE has it's own MySpace page too. moded indeed.

/now back to the topic at hand.
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not a fan.
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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Okay, so I'm going to post because in the unveil video on Scion.com the presenter said that they were looking forward to hearing from people on the boards. Here goes...

I dig on the style. It looks tough and beefy. The c-pillar isn't really THAT much bigger than the current tC and I like the style of that. I really like the doors. It's been a long while since a decently affordable car has been available in the US with vertical/gull wing doors. It's a mod many here on Scion Life have done or have dreamed about and it would be great to have it with factory reliability. The body lines are really good and I know that back end will grow on me just like the tC did (I never liked that at release).

The interior has some neat tricks and the overall style is good. I would, however, like to see more realistic guages and other controls. We all know what can be done with today's technology when you don't have to drive it around. We want to see what you WILL do or at least what is feesable in a daily driver.

I will add my voice to those here who have requested to see more "closer to production" concepts rather than these "design exercises". Also, as a coupe concept this FUSE is the heir apparent to the tC. Scion's own market research indicates HEAVILY that the #1 thing all tC buyers are concerned with is POWER. Therefore it would make sense that the powertrain should be featured extensively in a release of this sort. All we got with this release is a line about it having a 2.4L 4-cylinder and an air scoop that "hints of a large intercooler". Every other person in this thread has mentioned either power or RWD. That should be very telling to Scion.

So, in summary, concept on the outside is good, design of the inside is good, technology on the inside is impractical and comes off that way, and power is...not really mentioned much.

I like the FUSE, but want to see it in person. Current Scion buyers didn't say that when these cars were released and they don't say that today when they come to me and order these cars.

That's my .02 Scion, thanks for asking.

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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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I went to the NY Auto Show and the first display as soon as you walk in the Javits Center is all the Scions. You don't even have to pay to see them since they're before the ticket takers. I will post pics once I download them to my laptop. They've also got the tC RS 2.0 on display (it's number 3 of 2600). Every hour on the hour they give a display on all the features of the FUSE. Even though it is a concept, it's still pretty killer. I'm not disappointed in the least. The "butterfly" doors have a gas shock to assist it in lifting. The piping in the seats is that orange glow wire and all the guages are on the steering wheel. There's two monitors on the dash for multimedia and stuff. Two sensors on the rear bumper which will open the rear hatch. I like that Scion is still pushing the edge with this design, but still keeping with the tradition of Scion's t2b concept. The quirky headlights are actually "mood" lights which can change to about 5 different colors I think. The Scion emblem on the front actually has an LCD behind it constantly rotating the swirl. The 20 inch wheels have the turn signal side marker lights on each spoke. I'm sure I'm repeating a lot of stuff that has already been said or whaterver, but I could honestly talk about it for an hour. It's a really tight design that would be awesome as a production vehicle, but I won't hold my breath.....
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Originally Posted by ConjunctionJunction
The point is, I dont like the direction and marketing of that concept car. Politically correct or not as calling it ___ might be. In fact, Homosexuals tend to have more taste and maturity than that gimicky thing, so perhaps that was indeed the wrong misnomer. But this is a discussion about the "FUSE", which isn't very 'explosive'. **** explosion perhaps.

I got my tC because it was inexpensive, a practical commuter, had many features and is still a "Toyota". Sure, Scion's a youth oriented brand, but the youth marketing isn't driving all of the sales.

Seriously though, did you look at the character they had on Scion's Press Release web page? That K-Fed looking doofus is supposed represent the target demographic of the car.

I'm pretty sure the FUSE has it's own MySpace page too. moded indeed.

/now back to the topic at hand.
that kfed is all over scions page.

all the people on the scion page looks retarded but that's how it is.

no the youth marketing isnt pushing the sales so why should it matter to you how it's marketed.

what is so "gimicky" about the fuse? u mean all the electronic this and electronic that ? IT'S A CONCEPT CAR!!!!!! it'll look like that........
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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telling to scion or not. they cant make a high powered (feature rich) vehicle under 20k....... end of story.

rwd? toyota along with almost every other carmaker shyed away for many reasons . mostly incapable drivers.


and with tc drivers totalling their cars left and right the last thing they need is rwd.
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 01:37 AM
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looks good in person, don't know if this was mentioned but the tailgate opens to form a seat for hanging out, all the lights look pretty cool up close

Show them your key and you get a hat!
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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I'm with ConjunctionJunction on this topic. I'm actually insulted by scion marketing, and think that this concept is a horrendous rolling abortion of style. Like a hideous chimera of established styles somehow crushed into this thing. If you could give it a voice, it would beg you to drive it off a cliff.

I bought my tC because it had the best standard features and horsepower by far over any competition, and I could get it for MSRP without paying exorbitant markup. Then I promptly removed all exterior badging.

I'm depressed at all the comments I see from the people who like the Fuse. All the 'features' are just idiotic flash and shiny lights. How on earth that passes for "pushing the edge" is beyond me. I'd rather have cargo room and a lighter car instead of fold out couches and seats and ____. I don't live in my car.

What should have happened, being that the concept was for a 'sport coupe' is that they should have tried to actually accomplish the best overall design for that kind of car. As it sits now it's like a combination of a coupe and a crossover, if such a thing is possible.

Toyota has it in their power to make a truly great sporty car, but instead we get. this. The rampant copycatting design is depressing. The reason the Xb is so distinctive is because it's a kind of car that's never made it out of japan until now. That style has been around there for decades. The whole scion image is just a poor imitation of real style, and it depresses me that because I happen to own one, I am mixed in with it.

All the kids driving their mother's '92 whatsits, stock speakers straining under maximum volume, riding as low as possible in the seat, cap turned to 60 degrees for maximum attitude and edginess. Those are the kids that say 'hey nice car, man, what is dat' and rev me at stoplights.

Those are the people that like the fuse.
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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i don';t know why so many people hate a marketing plan. it doesnt make the car. it just gets it out in the public.


the fuse has some silly features yes but imo it looks totally bad ****.
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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I saw the fuse yesterday - pics tomorrow when i get home. It's a great looking car. Granted, not everyone will like the body style, but what they're mistaking is that this is a CONCEPT. They've been adding new designs and items that make the car completely unique. The features can be used in production model cars. The neat featuresr were the color-changing headlights, the turn signals on the wheels, the video-screen front emblem, monitors in the interior, etc. It's a great car for new technology.
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that kind of technology doesn't belong in cars. let aslon in sub 20k cars. I LOVE the style the most.
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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I like the fact that alot of people arent to fond of the radical design of the fuse. I look at it and am not thrilled with how off beat it is. But because of that I want one. Different is what tuners go for. And this hits the nail on the head. I think its awesome, and will take on fast. Scion is doing good by going crazy. Hopefully they can keep it up and follow through production.



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