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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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Hummer drivers get more tickets from police
BY TOM INCANTALUPO | tom.incantalupo@newsday.com January 15, 2009


What is it about those Hummer drivers?

A company that helps auto insurers spot high risks says in a new report that drivers of the H2 and H3 are ticketed by police at more than four times the rate of the average driver - the highest of models it studied.

But contrary to the stereotype of the aggressive sport utility vehicle driver, the report by ISO Quality Planning of San Francisco also found that drivers of Chevrolet Suburbans and Tahoes, big SUVs that share structural and mechanical basics with the H2, are among the least likely to get tickets for moving violations, based on a study of tickets issued nationwide in a 12-month period ended last year by drivers of more than 1.7 million vehicles.

Why the difference? Quality Planning executives can only guess. "The sense of power that Hummer drivers derive from their vehicle may be directly correlated with the number of violations they incur," president Raj Bhat said in statement. "Or perhaps Hummer drivers, by virtue of their driving position, are less likely to notice road hazards, signs, pedestrians or other drivers."

On Long Island, homebuilder and renovator Steve Nemiroff of Roslyn Heights said yesterday he has never been ticketed for a moving violation in 163,000 miles of driving the 2003 H2 he bought from North Bay Cadillac Hummer in Great Neck. And he said he does feel safe behind the wheel. "No matter what the weather or where I am," he said, "I never worry about me getting hurt."

Quality Planning said other vehicles whose drivers attract above-average numbers of tickets are those that appeal to young people, especially the Toyota/Scion xA, xB and tC; and at least two that appeal to auto enthusiasts, the Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG and CLS63 AMG.

Quality Planning's survey isn't the first to single out the drivers of Hummers; the Highway Loss Data Institute, a suburban Virginia-based group affiliated with the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, says on its Web site that H3s have a "substantially worse than average," rate of claims for property damage, though not for other types of claims.

The institute says the larger Hummer H2 has a substantially worse-than-average record for property damage and also for bodily injury and even fire and theft claims.

Drivers of these vehicles get the most tickets: *
Hummer H2, H3
Scion tC
Scion xB
Mercedes CLK63AMG
Toyota Solara Coupe
Mercedes CLS63AMG
Scion xA
Subaru Outback
Audi A4
Toyota Matrix

Drivers of these get the least:
Jaguar XJ
Chevrolet Suburban
Chevrolet Tahoe
Chevrolet C/K 2500/3500 pickup
Buick Park Avenue
Mazda 6
Buick Rainier SUV
Oldsmobile Silhouette minivan
Buick Lucerne
GMC Sierra C1500 pickup

*In order, based on percent of average rate per 100,000 miles driven
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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Interesting that the Hummer H2,H3 is grouped together, although it is based on two completely different platforms but the xA and xB are separated. Also, the two Chevy and two GMC trucks on the least ticketed cars are all basically the same thing. Hmmm....
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Dang it!

I was just coming here to post this same dang article!
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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so the po-pos don't like Scions? I'm proof, I got tagged for tinted headlights, running foglights, and too dark of tint...Damn can't they worry about murderers and drug pushers...no they have to mess with young people who arent in gangs and just buy lights for there vehicles they worked hard for! Man thats a touchy subject for me.
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^x10!
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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x2^
You would think the 5 0 have bigger things to worry about.
Speeding I can understand, but lights and tint and exe. is just a waist of time and money for all.
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Originally Posted by STNC
Dang it!

I was just coming here to post this same dang article!
Dammit, me too.

I wish the article had specified Gen 1 vs. Gen 2 on the xB...pretty significant difference in demographic there. I'm assuming it refers to Gen 1, since the xA is mentioned, and with sales the way they are, I can't imagine there's even enough Gen 2 xB's out to make a significant difference.

I can see this. My off-the-line acceleration is hardly epic, but in the higher gears it's verrrryyyy easy to drift upward and not be aware of it.

Once I was driving through rural Wisconsin at like 2:00 in the morning, and a Camry went whipping past me. I just sort of fell in behind him (it's called "velocitation"), and when I looked down expecting to see 75 or 80 MPH, my speedo read 104, and climbing. HOLY SPEED VIOLATION, BATMAN!

Good thing the po-leece didn't see me. I guess they were further up the road, ticketing a Hummer.
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Idk, I personally have no problem with cops, I roll illegal tint, and I only get messed with if i mess with them, I guess its just my bubbly personality!
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that explains alot....
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I have been pulled over 3 times and no tickets yet, knock on wood.
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I'm not married to a 5 0 so i am never "bubbly" with them...Your views will change once you get profiled by that one jealous mentally abused city figure disguised to "serve and protect"...'nuff said.
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O trust me, I get profiled all the time, ___ college kid, I'm supposed to be a constant drunk driver all the while burning churches and sodomizing people... Most of the cops I talk to are pretty cool, I just don't do anything to ____ em off, and when I did, I got bit. I made a face at a cop through my tint, and he ticketed me for tint, now I don't do it anymore, simple as that
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Dang STNC you are such a deviant, how dare you ! lol They see the purple drank cans rolling out of your car when you open the door, and that is enough reason to harass you.
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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What can I say...I like to slow my roll
Old Jan 20, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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scion is on a lot of "top", "best" or "most" lists....sometimes good, sometimes bad
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Well you have to look at it this way:

The tC is one of the safest cars
It is one of the most expensive to insure
It almost the most ticketed car out there

Wanna know why?
Because young people buy them, because they are safe and customizable, but they are traditionally the more inexperienced drivers, so they cost more to insure and typically get more tickets....
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Do parking tickets count?

I got 3 of those in 5 day week.....damn yellow curb.

Ticket wise; i've been pulled over twice in a 6 month period, one for speeding 41 in a 25; I was on my way to orientation and just moved to the area, that's no excuse but oh well, I learned were the speed traps were quickly. The 2nd last week for allegedly running a stop sign which I did not do.
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I have been pulled over several times for suspected DUI... Too bad i am straight edge... lol I guess if you dont use ur blinker at 2am that means ur drunk... They never said anything about my mods except how much and if i did it myself... Its all about respect i guess or the luck of the draw...
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Originally Posted by jdmtoybb
so the po-pos don't like Scions? I'm proof, I got tagged for tinted headlights, running foglights, and too dark of tint...Damn can't they worry about murderers and drug pushers...no they have to mess with young people who arent in gangs and just buy lights for there vehicles they worked hard for! Man thats a touchy subject for me.
I've been stopped a few times, once for no front plate. Second time, a state cop pulled me over after following me for more than a mile and even stopping behind me at a red light - when the light turned green, he bagged me. My 'serious' offense was going 55 in a 50, so he said - wow, what a menace to society. Obviously ran my plate while he was behind me, because as soon as he stopped me, he walked to the front to see if I had a plate - I didn't (looks so much better without it!). He was obviously profiling - lowered import, tint.......must have been a bit surprised when I rolled down the window and he saw a grey haired near 50 year old driving. Still gave me a ticket though, ahole. So it's not just you young guys, don't feel bad.
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Originally Posted by Lil_Deuce_tCoupe
......must have been a bit surprised when I rolled down the window and he saw a grey haired near 50 year old driving. :
That might have been the reason he gave you the ticket; was expecting someone else and thought damn eff it you get one.



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