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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 02:51 AM
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i was just curious if we were getting a hundred bucks back because we didn't get our tracking numbers and its july 5th. could someone clear this up for me or did some people get tracking numbers and im just not aware?
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 04:44 AM
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I was wondering the same thing myself.

I sort of expected some sort of (in)formal post about whether they got shipped out or not.
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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didnt install it myself... as for fuel management ...there is none... the scionspeed car uses a greddy emanage for boost over 12 psi...
the tC ecu will read and understand boost pressure via MAS. However boosting over 12psi requires timeing retard. The stock ecu doesnt like to do this on its own. Under 12psi the stock ecu will do everything needed. I have a slightly diffenerent turbo kit. I have no cat... .57 trim turbo.....550 cc injectors... the norm is cat with .50 trim 500 cc injectors. Im also installing the 3 inch dual exhaust in the next week or so. Scions TRD supercharger will not come with a piggyback computer. its not neccessary because the fuel system is returnless. And i believe the kit (not mine) with cats will be carb pending very soon. I live in Fl sso i could care less seeing as i dont have to smog test my car ever.
Stolen off sciontcclub. So if this guy is running 12 PSI of boost with no fuel managements
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by oldman
didnt install it myself... as for fuel management ...there is none... the scionspeed car uses a greddy emanage for boost over 12 psi...
the tC ecu will read and understand boost pressure via MAS. However boosting over 12psi requires timeing retard. The stock ecu doesnt like to do this on its own. Under 12psi the stock ecu will do everything needed. I have a slightly diffenerent turbo kit. I have no cat... .57 trim turbo.....550 cc injectors... the norm is cat with .50 trim 500 cc injectors. Im also installing the 3 inch dual exhaust in the next week or so. Scions TRD supercharger will not come with a piggyback computer. its not neccessary because the fuel system is returnless. And i believe the kit (not mine) with cats will be carb pending very soon. I live in Fl sso i could care less seeing as i dont have to smog test my car ever.
Stolen off sciontcclub. So if this guy is running 12 PSI of boost with no fuel managements
Relevance?
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dslrdave
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didnt install it myself... as for fuel management ...there is none... the scionspeed car uses a greddy emanage for boost over 12 psi...
the tC ecu will read and understand boost pressure via MAS. However boosting over 12psi requires timeing retard. The stock ecu doesnt like to do this on its own. Under 12psi the stock ecu will do everything needed. I have a slightly diffenerent turbo kit. I have no cat... .57 trim turbo.....550 cc injectors... the norm is cat with .50 trim 500 cc injectors. Im also installing the 3 inch dual exhaust in the next week or so. Scions TRD supercharger will not come with a piggyback computer. its not neccessary because the fuel system is returnless. And i believe the kit (not mine) with cats will be carb pending very soon. I live in Fl sso i could care less seeing as i dont have to smog test my car ever.
Stolen off sciontcclub. So if this guy is running 12 PSI of boost with no fuel managements
Relevance?
Besides, only the ScionSpeed stage III kit has emanage.
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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I was wondering the same thing myself
I would encourage you to contact the company (ZPI in this case) directly at the toll free phone number they have listed or a PM directly to them. This will be the first place any company/business will want to interface with the customer. Posting questions on a forum is secondary and response times may not be the fastest means to getting you a direct answer.

Additionally, it is best to have the one-on-one contact to establish a relationship with the customer, forums being a one dimensional means of communication leaves a lot to be desired.
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dslrdave
Originally Posted by oldman
didnt install it myself... as for fuel management ...there is none... the scionspeed car uses a greddy emanage for boost over 12 psi...
the tC ecu will read and understand boost pressure via MAS. However boosting over 12psi requires timeing retard. The stock ecu doesnt like to do this on its own. Under 12psi the stock ecu will do everything needed. I have a slightly diffenerent turbo kit. I have no cat... .57 trim turbo.....550 cc injectors... the norm is cat with .50 trim 500 cc injectors. Im also installing the 3 inch dual exhaust in the next week or so. Scions TRD supercharger will not come with a piggyback computer. its not neccessary because the fuel system is returnless. And i believe the kit (not mine) with cats will be carb pending very soon. I live in Fl sso i could care less seeing as i dont have to smog test my car ever.
Stolen off sciontcclub. So if this guy is running 12 PSI of boost with no fuel managements
Relevance?
Relevance is - WTF is the delay?
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ScionDad
Originally Posted by dslrdave
Originally Posted by oldman
didnt install it myself... as for fuel management ...there is none... the scionspeed car uses a greddy emanage for boost over 12 psi...
the tC ecu will read and understand boost pressure via MAS. However boosting over 12psi requires timeing retard. The stock ecu doesnt like to do this on its own. Under 12psi the stock ecu will do everything needed. I have a slightly diffenerent turbo kit. I have no cat... .57 trim turbo.....550 cc injectors... the norm is cat with .50 trim 500 cc injectors. Im also installing the 3 inch dual exhaust in the next week or so. Scions TRD supercharger will not come with a piggyback computer. its not neccessary because the fuel system is returnless. And i believe the kit (not mine) with cats will be carb pending very soon. I live in Fl sso i could care less seeing as i dont have to smog test my car ever.
Stolen off sciontcclub. So if this guy is running 12 PSI of boost with no fuel managements
Relevance?
Relevance is - WTF is the delay?
I know what the original posters' intention was. I was asking what the relevance was to Oldman, who didnt mention anything about the delayed shipment, but instead talked about boost, psi, scionspeed and a few other things that don't concern with ZPI.
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Oh I see your point. Just a little frustration showing while waiting for our product.
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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Well, the $100 discount may make you feel better. I bet they will keep their words.
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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very relevant, but only while in the zone...... you must learn to think further out of the box
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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if you can run 12psi without any engine management then why are people selling turbo kits with mild engine mangement (i see the e-manage as a expensive safc).

either way, i say call em, if you are having problems. As i thought they said everything was shipping around now a few weeks ago. Of course that was only for people in the first group, so do you even know what group you are in?
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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im in the first group for sure.....i ordered back in april. i still have not heard anything about the 100$ back and i dont have no tracking number, nor does anyone else it looks like. i say we just wait for what zpi says.
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by seen4ever
if you can run 12psi without any engine management then why are people selling turbo kits with mild engine mangement (i see the e-manage as a expensive safc).

either way, i say call em, if you are having problems. As i thought they said everything was shipping around now a few weeks ago. Of course that was only for people in the first group, so do you even know what group you are in?

because its DUMB not too. unless you can afford to rebuild your engine or buy another when a rod gets thrown through the block.... the chances of the stock ECU handling larger injectors and boost while still giving a good idle and decent mpg (when not in boost) are slim to none....
Old Jul 7, 2005 | 01:23 AM
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and how many turbo tC engines have you driven or know about with stock ECU
Old Jul 7, 2005 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by oldman
and how many turbo tC engines have you driven or know about with stock ECU
are you anti-ZPI or something now? I thought you bought a turbo kit?
Old Jul 7, 2005 | 02:04 AM
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Relevance is - WTF is the delay?
Maybe ZPI will post another video of "THEIR turbo TC" to calm people that are anxiously waiting for their pre-ordered kit.
Old Jul 7, 2005 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by oldman
and how many turbo tC engines have you driven or know about with stock ECU
zero. probably for good reason.

how many other turbo converted cars have you seen successfully run without at least a piggyback for an extended period of time? i've seen 2 that blew up via supercharger.... 0 turbos even attempt it.
Old Jul 7, 2005 | 02:41 AM
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The kits have not shipped yet. We are waiting on one pipe. The pipe was suppose to be here before the S-pipes and yet is not here.

The one good thing from this is it is allowing us to get some of the second batch done so there will be less if any delay.

We will refund the money to everyone in the first group all of these people where contacted about there orders on tuesday. We will refund the money when the kits ship as we may owe you 200 dollars.

As far as the factory ecu adjusting for 12psi is not true. One the stock injectors will not fuel 12psi and I assure you the car will not idle on 550cc injectors. We use the stock computer for 6-8psi as this is all it can handle. The ecu is smart enough to adjust the fuel for this boost level.

We apologize for the delay we want to ship these as bad as you want them.

Thanks

-ZPI
Old Jul 7, 2005 | 02:57 AM
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hmm 6 to 8 PSI... maybe the engine was built for boost....



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