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Broken lug nut? Need HELP!!!

Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Early this morning i got the lug nuts i bought online, as i was putting them on, wheel freaking nut just broke, i think i forced it too much..

so wheel nut split in half, the top came off so there's nothing to grab onto with a wrench. The bottom half is still on the stud holding the wheel on. is there a way to take it off?
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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do you have a picture f the damage? did you try hammering on a socket thats 1 size smaller than the nut?
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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do what the homeless guy said to do just be careful when you do it because u don't want to mess up any of the threads or anything so just tap it down until its stuck and then take it off like normal but do it slow cuz u can mess something up if done wrong
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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i havent try anything, coz im afriad i might damage something in there and i just recently got the rims. but i tried sticking the socket i have but it wont hold the broken nut(mm left off the nut), coz the sucket is hitting the wheel.. ill try to post pics off this damage. today
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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here are some pics.

Old Jul 30, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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nvm.
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What kind of lugs are those?

If you were properly using a torque wrench to put the lugs on when it broke, I highly suggest removing all the lugs and replacing with the stock ones.
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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your screwed!!!!!! yes, i had the same issue with my enkei's when i took it off but thats because i forgot to put Anti-Seize Lubricant on it.

you can chisel if you have the tool to reshape into a socket. but i had to take my car to the autoshop and they had to drill the whole bolt and stud off. you have to buy new lug studs, they are pretty cheap. but the service will cost you. and its not a DIY thing you do need a air compressed torque gun to install the stud back on.


if you got some other cheap way to get it off just be careful not to damage the threads on the studs...


also when you tighten lug nuts by hand, you only tighten enough untill the whole car budges. meaning use your body weight to tighten closes then pull the bar and see if the whole car pulls along. thats TIGHT ENOUGH!

If you want to know when your lug nuts are loose, while your driving your gonna hear "cluncking" sounds as if each thump is heard per wheel full rotation.
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urm the way they took off the stud and bolt was using a torch gun. melted that sucker off! if you do let the mechanics get a hold of it, beware your rim will be damaged by heat regardless, unless you dont want it fixed at all...

when they install the new studs they use a stud socket and drill that stud into the rotor. the rotor part has teeth that eats the stud into itself. good luck
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Originally Posted by Diluvium
your screwed!!!!!! yes, i had the same issue with my enkei's when i took it off but thats because i forgot to put Anti-Seize Lubricant on it.

you can chisel if you have the tool to reshape into a socket. but i had to take my car to the autoshop and they had to drill the whole bolt and stud off. you have to buy new lug studs, they are pretty cheap. but the service will cost you. and its not a DIY thing you do need a air compressed torque gun to install the stud back on.


if you got some other cheap way to get it off just be careful not to damage the threads on the studs...


also when you tighten lug nuts by hand, you only tighten enough untill the whole car budges. meaning use your body weight to tighten closes then pull the bar and see if the whole car pulls along. thats TIGHT ENOUGH!

If you want to know when your lug nuts are loose, while your driving your gonna hear "cluncking" sounds as if each thump is heard per wheel full rotation.
The only way to put on lug nuts is with a calibrated torque wrench. Any other way is wrong.
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Diluvium
your screwed!!!!!! yes, i had the same issue with my enkei's when i took it off but thats because i forgot to put Anti-Seize Lubricant on it.

you can chisel if you have the tool to reshape into a socket. but i had to take my car to the autoshop and they had to drill the whole bolt and stud off. you have to buy new lug studs, they are pretty cheap. but the service will cost you. and its not a DIY thing you do need a air compressed torque gun to install the stud back on.


if you got some other cheap way to get it off just be careful not to damage the threads on the studs...


also when you tighten lug nuts by hand, you only tighten enough untill the whole car budges. meaning use your body weight to tighten closes then pull the bar and see if the whole car pulls along. thats TIGHT ENOUGH!

If you want to know when your lug nuts are loose, while your driving your gonna hear "cluncking" sounds as if each thump is heard per wheel full rotation.
The only way to put on lug nuts is with a calibrated torque wrench. Any other way is wrong.


well that leads no choice but to torch the sucker off!
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either way chiselliing or torching its gonna damage the studs regardless. not only replacing the studs but your rim is gonna sacrifice to get that bolt off....
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weld a nut onto the end of the broken socket and repeat.
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 09:50 PM
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owned. This might not work, but i'd try and dremel the bolt from one side across it as deep as u can go. Then try and stick something metalic thats thin like a chisel or something and maybe split the bolt further down if possible. I'm not sure how that would work out for ya tho.

^^ that would work too.
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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they do sell lug nut removers, im not sure how it works. i had a mechanic/friend explain to me there is a socket that removes broken lugs. the socket itself has teeth in it, all you do is apply force or torque gun it so the teeth in the socket eat through the nut and stays in place.

the issue is, as i see, your rim and the broken lug looks cramped up so i think it wont fit anyways...
Old Jul 30, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Zsanz
weld a nut onto the end of the broken socket and repeat.
i doubt that too, first your gonna mess up your rims, second you might weld the lug and stud together..


3 look how compact the space between the rim and lug... i dont think you can fit anything between there.
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It's not like they're good rims. They're sport max...
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 01:06 AM
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oh man, that sucks, you will probly hae to get the stud drilled out, i would imagine that would be the only way to go about it and still save your rim.
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get the high end chisels at homedepot and start hammering that thing in and try to unscreww it while doing that, i hope u didnt torque it to the point where u need an impact gun
Old Jul 31, 2008 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
It's not like they're good rims. They're sport max...
Shut up, I have those exact same rims.

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