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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 04:15 AM
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Ive read a lot of posts discussing the pros and cons of CAI and SRI, so whats the dirt on a SRI w/ cold air box?
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 05:14 AM
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keeps the filter from getting hot air from the engine bay. i only know one person who has it so far-and he likes it. i just ordered it, supposed to be here by monday. let u know what i think when i get it. according to weapon r, u get all the benefits of a CAI without having to worry about hydrolock-but that's according to them.
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 05:35 AM
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It seems to me like the perfect solution. You have a large hole in the fenderwell that can draw col air from outside the engine bay and a very short trip to the TB. How can you go wrong?
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 05:37 AM
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thats kinda the same conclusion i came to, but i just wanted to see if theres something im not thinkg about.
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Get under there and look. All of the CAIs draw their air about 12" lower than the OEM airbox plumbing. It's no colder. If you look at how the plastic bits under the car are oriented, the air is drawn in from underhood, about 24" to the right of the header. If you want colder air, you're going to have to get it from outside the car. This is why our motors heatsoak as much as they do. Underhood temps can hit 130º within the first 2 minutes of sitting at idle.

Fortunately, there's a little pop-out dummy grille right there. Take a piece of 3" flex hose, attach it to the opening to the airbox, and run it down to the opening in the bumper. You've now got a cold air intake-- that actually intakes cold air-- for about $10.

I could care less what it sounds like. Matter of fact, the quieter the better.
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 07:00 AM
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Whats a good way to secure the hose to to either end, or is it stable on its own?
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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on the weapon r ram air kit, it gets bolted to the car. i only have 1 side of the scoop bolted on-with 2 bolts, and it's been fine for the last 3 months. the scoop has a guard on it with holes to prevent picking up debris, and then behind the scoop it has a piece of thin foam just to act as another filter. people are mounting it to the fake air vent on the bottom of the car and leaving the cover off the vent-it's where i mounted mine, except i put the air vent cover back on and just drilled a bunch of holes in it-i didn't like the way it looked having a huge hole there. as far as i'm concerned, i made the right choice going with the weapon r. what made the cold air box decision simple was-i can still use the ram air stuff with it.


also, talk to leo or ray from weapon r if u have any questions. they're both pretty good about answering PMs and know what they're talking about
Old Jun 16, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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how often does hydrolock happen with a CAI? is it often enough to be a big concern? I live in chicago so we get tons of rain/snow, i want to get a CAI but i cant get a strait answer on how big of a problem CAI hydrolock is.... anyone have an answer/experience with this.
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hydrolock happens basically when you submerge the part of the car with CAI. So basically if you drive through really flooded streets the probability to hyrdolock is higher than normal. During the rainy season it tends to flood some streets and big puddles are all over in my area so I personally wouldn't get a CAI. People may say that it doesn't happen often or they do not know anyone it has happened to, but the danger still exist. Just because you know someone who survived a 10 story drop doesn't mean you should go test your chances too.
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how often do you drive through puddles up to your headlights? If you do your an idiot and thats how you get hydrolock, hydrolock is for ricers who don't think while they drive. Use your head, don't drive the stuff you don't know about..its that simple
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People have hydroed their motors in as little as 4 inches of water. You don't need to submerge the whole filter.
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i dont think anyone drives through puddles up to their headlights , except maybe TV idiots that have seen too many SUV commercials. regardless, thanks Oni for the heads up on the CAI. i think you would hydrolock your engine in headlight high pools intake or no intake.
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I guess if you took all your splash guards out and everything its possible, unless your going like nose dive into water, there is no way enough water makes it past all the splash guards(unless the water is that deep, so you shouldn't be in it anyways) to get to the filter if you are driving through things you are paying attention to.
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get the umnitza cold air intake box. it is the sexiest sounding intake ive ever heard. check it out here www.umnitza.com
Old Jun 17, 2005 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by dmxsoulja3
how often do you drive through puddles up to your headlights? If you do your an idiot and thats how you get hydrolock, hydrolock is for ricers who don't think while they drive. Use your head, don't drive the stuff you don't know about..its that simple
You don't have to submerge the whole damn car. Use your head man. No, but seriously if enough water manages to soak the CAI then you have problems. Large continous splashing associated with driving down a flooded street, etc.
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i would purchase the weapon R (even though i yelled at ray LOL ) with ram air kit and cold air box (carbon fiber). i'd have to see the dyno first though
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i'm gonna do a dyno next weekend probably. only thing-the dyno will be with the weapon r intake, cold air box, ram air kit, CC catback exhaust and alphawerks header. we basically know what the alphawerks does, and pretty sure what the exhaust will put out also. figure the weapon r intake setup numbers can be figured out thru that. there is a dyno of the weapon r intake that was done by mahalzkita-it's on his cardomain site. also, there's a weapon r dyno by tprmag. http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/sr-weapr.shtml

this was the dyno of the dragon intake-the second tier weapon r intake. tprmag told me that the weapon r intake ranged all the way from 2-4hp higher in the band. they also have dynos of the K&N, injen short ram and cai, aem, dc, etc. only thing is-they tested the intakes on a civic i believe. point being-even though the car isn't ours, the power each intake produces is what i care about. it might be diff from car to car obviously, but if the dragon did better than most of the other intakes, then the secret weapon intake would probably destroy the other ones(when i say other ones, i mean ones that are available for our cars-the dc intake meant nothing to me, because they're not making one for the tc, so no matter how great it is, i'll never have it or probably ever be able to buy it)
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my cold air box still isn't here-waiting sux. i did however find this on one of the websites. shows the temps of the engine bay, intake manifold, the outside of the cold air box and the inside of the cold air box. it made a pretty big difference between the temp under the hood and the temp inside the cold air box.

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thats pointing directly at the engine. and if the intake manifold is a full 44 degrees hotter than the inside of the cold air box, then it's probably going to bring the air's temp up to 20-15 degrees away from 140. i would love to see a dyno with the secret weapon, ram air, and cold air box.



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