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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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dam guys...get off his fukin back already.
Old Nov 20, 2005 | 05:25 AM
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I have to say I agree with Generica and Desert's comments. A dyno is more of a tool to measure and tune one's own car. The rest of us looking at dyno results should look at them more for a possible range of potential and not as concrete expectations.

Now, lets see those other mods
Old Nov 20, 2005 | 05:38 AM
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Why would he try to over rate his power BEFORE adding the sc???? Face it, dynos (especially wheel dynos) are not always super accurate (another reason the factory rates at the crank). But getting a good baseline on the dyno and then more runs after the sc on the same dyno gives a good idea of the percent increase. That is all he is trying to do. Most dynos I have seen posted have been around 142, so it isnt like a night and day difference. Give him a break
Old Nov 20, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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Dynojet isn't fully accurate.

A stock tC is for a manual is going to be at most 140whp. At most. 147whp is way too much for the stock motor. Not trying to kill your dream or anything.

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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by engifineer
Why would he try to over rate his power BEFORE adding the sc???? Face it, dynos (especially wheel dynos) are not always super accurate (another reason the factory rates at the crank). But getting a good baseline on the dyno and then more runs after the sc on the same dyno gives a good idea of the percent increase. That is all he is trying to do. Most dynos I have seen posted have been around 142, so it isnt like a night and day difference. Give him a break
Thank you, I knew I wasn't crazy when I thought I saw graphs over 140...
Old Nov 20, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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I dyno'd 145 stock, why is everyone complaining. Also on a dynojet.
Old Nov 20, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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I dyno'd 141whp on a dyno jet, bone stock. I could really care less though, i just did my baseline run the day before i got the supercharger installed. I'm going to get it dyno'd again this week now that i've had it on for a couple weeks. Thanks for looking out DesertHeat, some of us know that your just trying to help educate about how much the SC really helps and such
Old Nov 20, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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Draxas even made 143 on a STOCK 5spd.


Keep us informed DesertHeat on your S/C #'s.
Old Nov 20, 2005 | 05:07 PM
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Thats the entire point of a baseline. It could have said that his car had 27 HP. When he gets his mods, and goes back, if it said he had 67 HP then he would know what the increase was. Dyno's are tuning tools. They are all calibrated different and none of them are going to be the same.

You want to compare power, I suggest you get your time slips out and compare your MPH's.

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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
Thats the entire point of a baseline. It could have said that his car had 27 HP. When he gets his mods, and goes back, if it said he had 67 HP then he would know what the increase was. Dyno's are tuning tools. They are all calibrated different and none of them are going to be the same.

You want to compare power, I suggest you get your time slips out and compare your MPH's.

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Well said.
Just make sure you use the same dyno everytime, jumping from a dynojet then to a mustang dyno, would really dissapoint you.
Old Nov 21, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
Thats the entire point of a baseline. It could have said that his car had 27 HP. When he gets his mods, and goes back, if it said he had 67 HP then he would know what the increase was. Dyno's are tuning tools. They are all calibrated different and none of them are going to be the same.

You want to compare power, I suggest you get your time slips out and compare your MPH's.

Charles
Whoever didn't know that shouldn't tune a car. Jk, but really, its common sense. I posted about the whp since that was the point of discussion. However, if it did show 27whp somethings definitely wrong.

However, comparing power you can't compare MPH. You can have two tcs, one with 200whp and the other with say 180whp. The 180whp can easily win with shorter gears, lsd, short shifter, performance clutch and other things geard for shifting hard and pure acceleration. Not to mention, one could have weight reduction and the other may not. Lots of things can go into play for a faster MPH when comparing the same car with mods. Besides, who cares. Autocross is were its at anyway, not 1/4. (imo)

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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by killerxromances
Originally Posted by TurboCustomz
Thats the entire point of a baseline. It could have said that his car had 27 HP. When he gets his mods, and goes back, if it said he had 67 HP then he would know what the increase was. Dyno's are tuning tools. They are all calibrated different and none of them are going to be the same.

You want to compare power, I suggest you get your time slips out and compare your MPH's.

Charles
Whoever didn't know that shouldn't tune a car. Jk, but really, its common sense. I posted about the whp since that was the point of discussion. However, if it did show 27whp somethings definitely wrong.

However, comparing power you can't compare MPH. You can have two tcs, one with 200whp and the other with say 180whp. The 180whp can easily win with shorter gears, lsd, short shifter, performance clutch and other things geard for shifting hard and pure acceleration. Not to mention, one could have weight reduction and the other may not. Lots of things can go into play for a faster MPH when comparing the same car with mods. Besides, who cares. Autocross is were its at anyway, not 1/4. (imo)

Cya
The 180 MPH car can get a lower ET. That doesnt mean it can out MPH it. I've seen many cars run 7's in the 8th and only run 88mph or so. Its a combination of many things. Auto X is more driver then car in most cases. Dont get me wrong, a well setup car can make up for a lot of inexperienced driver, but I'd say its a 70/30 split.

In either event. Good idea getting a baseline. Just make sure you go back to the same dyno, or its all pointless. Lol

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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 01:28 AM
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Why is it when someone posts something that everyone has been asking for. (The Baseline dyno before the SC is put on). everyone has to knock it. Seems the ones that are hating on him are the ones that have mods and less power. Or have no mods at all and just want to knock someones dyno runs.
Desert.. awesome to see you do that for everyone. I cant wait to see what the final numbers are.
Old Nov 21, 2005 | 01:29 AM
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 01:38 AM
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 01:39 AM
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keep us posted man
Old Nov 21, 2005 | 02:00 AM
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With the price tag that comes with this, I really wish they would have included a polished S/C housing. Oh well, its not all that hard to do I guess.

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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 02:15 AM
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Yeah I totally agree! The finish of the sc and intake are pretty crappy for $3K setup.... castings look like they were done 5+ years ago and left out in the weather
Old Nov 21, 2005 | 02:40 AM
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can you use an aftermarket intake with the supercharger?



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