So Im wondering from those who might run either of these two or might know some indepth information between the two. Basically im looking to get either the emanage or camcon once im finished with my upgrades (intake, header, exhaust, pulley) leaving my car in the NA form. I know neither of these are going to give significant gains, but I think a few extra hp/tq as well as getting the timing/AF controlled would be worth it.

I know camcon can control vvti and emanage can control ignition timing. Both handle A/F. Just wondering which would be more beneficial in an NA car?

 

I have a camcon and I am getting the emanange ultimate in the future. I have developed a miss from from the camcon sometimes its really bad and sometimes its a very slight stumble.

 

just for future upgradability i'd go with the emanage. fuel maps, timing maps, boost maps, rev limiters, nitrous engagement, etc etc etc can all be adjusted with the emanage.

 

Whats the reasoning to go for the ultimate? guessing due to being able to cut speed limiter?

Also, im thinking of going nitrous in the future. Can camcon not control it at all?

 

CAMCON IS WORTHLESS.

It doesn't do half of what the emanage does, and the ECU learns around it really fast... it was a dissapointment for many users.

 

I wouldn't say its worthless but you can gain a bit b/c you are able to adjust the VVTI unlike emanage. Emanage is better though.

 

Yeah... the most I've seen out of it though is like 5-10HP, which just isn't worth it... and the ECU still relearns...

 

i had been waiting for this thread
nice that results come in so quickly
basically emanage > camcon...right?

 

So emanage is better but still doesn't tune vvt-i? Also let's look at the price of both. To where I live I found out that I could buy a CanCom for $333.00 and that's with S&H, and I found out that the e-manage (BLUE) I could buy it on $265.00 and that's without S&H...

 

how much hp and tq can be expected out of both of these on an auto tC with injen cai, mmw headers and s-pipe, precision muffler axle back, and zpi pulley?

 

it depends how you tune the air/ fuel ratio. i wouldn't expect to big of gains. maybe 5-10 hp.

 

but the emanage would give bigger gains than the camcon?

 

I think that in the long run e-manage would do better cause of its many features.
What do you think people?

 

as i said before, i would go with the emanage. eventually i think that i'll be getting one (because i've been throwing around the idea of getting a nitrous kit). with the ability to control almost every parameter except vvt-i, it just seems like the choice that will give me the best reliablity and gains.

 

I know it can be expensive, but why not used both, CamCon for the vvt-i and e-manage for everything else? Can both be used at the same time? I know it would be like super expensive ($600) but maybe it can be a super combo working together (if they can).

 

is it true that if you get the emanage, you have to buy 250 bucks worth of harnesses?

 

do you want to cut your engine harness ?

its the ease of taking it off just in case, and makes install true plug and play.

im leaning more on emanage just because its bolt on, no cutting required.

 

i dont want to cut anything but i didnt realize i was gonna have to spend an extra 250 bucks (is that the correct price for all the harnesses that an auto tC would need?) to do that...

 

so the ultimate is able to cut the speed limiter?

 

Yeah thats whats being charged unfortunately... If I was trying to save as much money as possible I would just do the cutting but I want to try as hard as possible to get the harness as well with my Emanage.