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Laminate 07-31-2009 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by beandip007 (Post 3242773)

1) 2GR-FE
The 2GR-FE is a bad arse motor. Just gut a new camry with its drive train and put it in. I guarantee the Camry is fatter than our cars, and I have been spanked by one. Heck they run it in the X-runner. It has got a lot of potential.

I've heard of someone swapping this in a tC before. it looks like a good motor, if i had infinite funds id definitely try to figure it out lol.

gingles 08-01-2009 02:48 AM


Originally Posted by ColonelSanders85 (Post 3242287)
Ok seriously here folks, no one has mentioned the two best possible options. Option A is to import a J-spec 4th gen (out of a ST215 Caldina or ST205 Celica GT4) 3sgte engine. We are talking about a 2.0 toyota engine that comes with a turbo and over 260hp stock. I imported one from Hong Kong a couple of years ago and put it in my 94 Celica GT (It actually bolted directly to the two-wheel drive 5sfe transmission.) Let me tell you that thing was a BEAST! You can get over 400hp out of it without too much effort or coin. Anyways, thats your FWD option.

Your RWD option is something that I think every one of us has wanted to see for a long long time. Scoop up a 2jz-gte engine out of a late 90's Supra and shoehorn that bad-boy in there. The sky's the limit on the hp, that engine is bullet-proof. You can crank over a 1000hp if you've got the fund$, and plus it would avoid the bastardization of putting a 350 in.

Anyways, that's my two-cents, good luck with your build. 8)

so just out of curiousty but where did you hear the st205 came with 260hp?....i thought they were 210 stock with the ct26.....atleasts thats what my ex-roommates gt4 had stock.....im guessing different gen celicas? wait, you said it was imported....gotcha now

TheFantasticG 08-01-2009 05:37 AM

I was looking hard at the 2GR-FSE, but it only comes in to the auto trans. The 2GR-FE can be had with the 5 spd man. I'd rather keep the 5spd.

yellowxhoodie 08-01-2009 06:01 AM

2JZ or bust.

gingles 08-01-2009 03:42 PM

2jz......7mgte.....mmmmm oh the possibilities if i had the money

beandip007 08-01-2009 04:16 PM

I don't know how in the world you are gong to throw a 2JZ in the TC? It is way longer than a 350. You would have to sit in the back seats. lol Never go for the 7M, that motor is a dinosaur, not very reliable for the Iron block aluminum head, and parts are rare now.

Nightbeat 08-01-2009 05:19 PM

Honestly my personally choice would be the 3sgte its a ____ing GREAT engine, I had a 91 celica gt that I did a 3sgte swap on, I built the engine up to 400hp easily could have done more but a lovely DD decided to t-bone me, hence the birth of my TC lol

TheFantasticG 08-01-2009 07:54 PM

I was looking at the 2JZ today at the junkyard. It really wouldn't be THAT hard to fit in in. Size wise, it'll fit with some cutting.

tc_turbocoupe 08-01-2009 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by TheFantasticG (Post 3243851)
I was looking at the 2JZ today at the junkyard. It really wouldn't be THAT hard to fit in in. Size wise, it'll fit with some cutting.

doooo it! i was looking at 2j's for my tc a couple months back then i ran into the money issue... haha but dooooo itttt!!!!!! my boy alpha will do the tuning he runs all over the us tuning 2j's!

Nightbeat 08-01-2009 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by TheFantasticG (Post 3243851)
I was looking at the 2JZ today at the junkyard. It really wouldn't be THAT hard to fit in in. Size wise, it'll fit with some cutting.

If you can pull it off DOOOOO IT NOW, that would be so insane, a TC with a 2jz mmmmmmmmm thats about all I can say except I will kiss your feet if you let me drive it LOL

crush02342002 08-01-2009 10:45 PM

i was with him and it was the 2jzge out of a lexus...effing nice looking engine. ima do a little research and see what we can do...is it the same block and head as the 2jzgte?

crush02342002 08-01-2009 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by Nightbeat (Post 3243897)
If you can pull it off DOOOOO IT NOW, that would be so insane, a TC with a 2jz mmmmmmmmm thats about all I can say except I will kiss your feet if you let me drive it LOL

you would have to try a little harder than that to drive it:silly:

Nightbeat 08-01-2009 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by crush02342002 (Post 3243986)
i was with him and it was the 2jzge out of a lexus...effing nice looking engine. ima do a little research and see what we can do...is it the same block and head as the 2jzgte?

joys of toyota engines you can tell the block and head buy the engine model number the only difference between a 2jzge and a 2jzgte is the t which represents turbo. They are the exact same block and head. Back in highschool I have a 4banger tacoma that I dropped the lexus 2jzge into and then just bought the aftermarket supra parts for it its a freakin insane engine that can throw out some huge numbers. A guy in town here has a mkIV supra with a 2jzgte pushing 700hp

crush02342002 08-01-2009 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by Nightbeat (Post 3243999)
joys of toyota engines you can tell the block and head buy the engine model number the only difference between a 2jzge and a 2jzgte is the t which represents turbo. They are the exact same block and head. Back in highschool I have a 4banger tacoma that I dropped the lexus 2jzge into and then just bought the aftermarket supra parts for it its a freakin insane engine that can throw out some huge numbers. A guy in town here has a mkIV supra with a 2jzgte pushing 700hp

thats kinda what i thought but just wanted to make sure the internals were exactly the same...i didnt really know if the gte had beefier rods or perhaps lower compression ect than the ge.

crush02342002 08-01-2009 11:24 PM

hey garret i vote the 2jz and rwd conversion....lol

TheFantasticG 08-02-2009 04:26 AM

Hmm... I'll have to think about it. But I mean, the 2GR in my opinion would be an easier fit.

pinoyFMtC 08-02-2009 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by crush02342002 (Post 3244025)
thats kinda what i thought but just wanted to make sure the internals were exactly the same...i didnt really know if the gte had beefier rods or perhaps lower compression ect than the ge.

iirc, the rods are the same,the pistons on the GE are higher compression, and the GE doesn't have the oil squirters. I think the heads are very similar. The GE still has almost as much potential as the GTE. I've seen an NA-T 2JZ in a GS300 that was pushing over 900rwhp, without too much modification to it.

I still think 3S-GTE and keep it FWD. The 3S is like a mini 2JZ lol.

crush02342002 08-02-2009 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by pinoyFMtC (Post 3244393)
iirc, the rods are the same,the pistons on the GE are higher compression, and the GE doesn't have the oil squirters. I think the heads are very similar. The GE still has almost as much potential as the GTE. I've seen an NA-T 2JZ in a GS300 that was pushing over 900rwhp, without too much modification to it.

I still think 3S-GTE and keep it FWD. The 3S is like a mini 2JZ lol.

good info...thanks..

yeah garret i think your right but just dreaming bro...like i said befor im down for whatever.

OneJay 08-02-2009 06:36 AM

+1 good info ian. Do it!

charlie07tc 08-03-2009 12:32 AM

Here's a crazy idea: get a 6-bolt 4g63 and drivetrain from a mitsu gsx awd. with the right mods that engine will hold up to 30+ psi of boost and over 1000 awhp.


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