Does anyone believe that or can say something about it? I have a friend who just says F23A>Camry Engine? (99 Honda Accord vs tC) Is that true? I'm start to mod my car soon and i'm hoping to smash him cause he's making it seem like our engine is weak? Tell me what you guys think?

 

Do you mean in terms of engine design, or are you looking to race () him? If you mean the entire car, there are many more factors (weight, gearing, etc) to consider.

In terms of engine design, Honda probably followed their traditional less-is-more philosophy of low, fuel-efficient output in normal driving RPM ranges, coupled with on-demand power as needed in the upper RPMs.

Toyota followed their standard model of carefully studying their target market, and produced a torquey engine. That's traditionally what Americans look for.

Edit: It all comes down to what you want in an engine/automobile. If you bought a tC, then I guess the 2az-fe is better for you since you aren't gonna find a Honda engine.

 

I'm going to venture to say both engines are nearly identical in design, with the only difference in how and when the intake and exhaust valves open up.

They are both push-rod 4 cylinders, 2.3liter and 2.4 liter. Roughly the same compression ratio/bore/stroke. As for what responds better to mods, the honda engine has been out longer and has been used to mod longer, so as of right now, it may seem that the honda engine is superior, but with a little more time and money the toyota engine is probably capable of the same if not better output.

 

f23a is a 2.3 liter, single cam, vtec. it probably has less aftermarket support since its only available in the accord, whereas the 2azfe is found in the tc, camry/solara, rav4.
theyre basically the same engine (specs and performance) as far as I'm concerned.

 

with equivalent mods and if both are 5-speed, you should take him easy. Those cars run mid 16's at best in stock form. I have a 99 v6 accord, which is notable faster than the I4, and the best time I pulled was a 15.799 @ 84.xx

 

you can do intake header and full exhaust but up aginst a 99 accord that is slower in stock form you probly dont even need to do that.

 

WTF? Pushrods? No, they're both overhead cam engines that don't use pushrods. Pushrods are usually found in american OHV v8 engines, like the 350 Chevy.

 

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LMAO you're right, i dont know why i said that. i think it was because it "flowed" when i said it in my head.

 

Stock for stock there school lunch if you can drive.....

 

Yeah.. sorry... push-rods and overhead cams are mutually exclusive. The honda motor is SOHC, with 150hp and 153 tq.

Superior?
Not in my opinion. They're really 2 different animals, boosting power in different ways. The honda motor varies cam-lift, while the toyota motor varies cam-timing.

However, in an accord, it results in a slow car. The V6 is way more powerful, and only the new 6-speed 240hp V6's are really worth noting as "quick".... (14-second cars)

 

Well my question is do I stand a chance? Lets say we both went all motor header, exhaust, and intake. i'll smoke him easy? And the F23A is 150hp and 153 torque?

 

im guessing its a 90-93 honda accord.

my buddy had one. i beat him by a LONG shot. we are talkin about 4-5 cars... (that was the 1st time and he sucks at driving)

the 2nd time i gave hime a small lead. and still smashed him.
as far as engien power is concerned...

the 2AZ puts way more power to the wheels than the F23A.

and since the accord is heavier than the TC. this race shoud be put away in the bag.

 

Keep in mind power doesn't always win races if your gearing really sucks and his is better then he could beat you. Power does have something to do with it but when both of you are sitting close to the same then gearing matters and vehicle weight,

 

tC gearing is actually quite good for racing, not so much for fuel economy...well if you are a 5-speed at least. The accord's gearing in nothing special, and they are obese vehicles.

 

The only way you need to be remotely concerned is if you're auto and he's a manual.

And that's just "remotely".

 

The tC has more power, weighs less, and has much better gear ratios. It's all over for the honda.

Hell, you could probably even miss a gear and you'd still win.

 

hold on are you racing with a camry or tC? If the tC then tC hands down. I thought by your topic you were talking about a camry.