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Old Oct 30, 2006 | 02:40 AM
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Can it be done? What's the path? Nitrous not allowed.
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 02:49 AM
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i think you could do it. the dyno on mine was 147.5 hp that was only exaust cold air. now if you get a piggyback or something to tune the computer you could easily get 10 - 20 extra horse out of those parts. and if you added all the bolt ons that you can get for the tc i think you could
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 02:53 AM
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Yes, it can be done, and you might be able to get there with bolt-ons. Get yourself an Injen CAI and then a header, s-pipe, and full exhaust to free up as much of the engine as you can. Run an underdrive pulley and a lightened crank pulley.

Get a Power Enterprises Camcon or a GReddy E-Manage and tune the living hell out of it.
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 02:54 AM
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been beat to death numerous times.

this could prob help you out more:

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Originally Posted by eston
Run an underdrive pulley and a lightened crank pulley.
have to pick one or the other...

unless you meant lightened flywheel and undriven crank pulley
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 02:58 AM
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head porting should give you a good boost in power and set you up for later turbo/supercharger work
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I/H/E/P and e-manage, that's what I'm about to try. Just bought the e-manage Ultimate, and witing for the Dezod EMS to be paid and brought. Then tune, and expect 15-25whp with Primium Gas. Few months later, maybe a port & polish.
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Originally Posted by soros151
I/H/E/P and e-manage, that's what I'm about to try. Just bought the e-manage Ultimate, and witing for the Dezod EMS to be paid and brought. Then tune, and expect 15-25whp with Primium Gas. Few months later, maybe a port & polish.
Intake, header, exhaust, and P??? What's P? Port and polish?
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Pulley :D
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Ha, ok.
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Originally Posted by soros151
I/H/E/P and e-manage, that's what I'm about to try. Just bought the e-manage Ultimate, and witing for the Dezod EMS to be paid and brought. Then tune, and expect 15-25whp with Primium Gas. Few months later, maybe a port & polish.
Premium gas isnt going to do anything for you.
Your compression ratio isnt changing, so 87 octane will be fine.
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Originally Posted by soros151
I/H/E/P and e-manage, that's what I'm about to try. Just bought the e-manage Ultimate, and witing for the Dezod EMS to be paid and brought. Then tune, and expect 15-25whp with Primium Gas. Few months later, maybe a port & polish.
Premium gas isnt going to do anything for you.
Your compression ratio isnt changing, so 87 octane will be fine.

As far as I know, an e-manage ultimate allows for ignition map alterations. If that's true and you run significant timing advance, you'd be wise to use higher octane fuel unless you'd like to meet a man called Mr. Det.
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Originally Posted by adg016
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Originally Posted by soros151
I/H/E/P and e-manage, that's what I'm about to try. Just bought the e-manage Ultimate, and witing for the Dezod EMS to be paid and brought. Then tune, and expect 15-25whp with Primium Gas. Few months later, maybe a port & polish.
Premium gas isnt going to do anything for you.
Your compression ratio isnt changing, so 87 octane will be fine.

As far as I know, an e-manage ultimate allows for ignition map alterations. If that's true and you run significant timing advance, you'd be wise to use higher octane fuel unless you'd like to meet a man called Mr. Det.

hmm i suppose thats true, i just cant see adjusting the timing that much, but in any case i see how youre right
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Timing will yeild some power if you have the gas for it.

I/H/E.

Port the head, and have the exhaust side port matched with your header to ensure maximum efficiency. That will make for some good power. A custom intake manifold with larger TB, and a port matched intake setup will give you great power.

With a fully ported head (including port matching), intake mani w/TB, intake (a good intake), header, exhaust (not just a muffler, and replace the midsection), NST pulley, and a good tune, I'd say 200whp is attainable.
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Originally Posted by Joe_Dezod
Timing will yeild some power if you have the gas for it.

I/H/E.

Port the head, and have the exhaust side port matched with your header to ensure maximum efficiency. That will make for some good power. A custom intake manifold with larger TB, and a port matched intake setup will give you great power.

With a fully ported head (including port matching), intake mani w/TB, intake (a good intake), header, exhaust (not just a muffler, and replace the midsection), NST pulley, and a good tune, I'd say 200whp is attainable.

Thanks, Joe.
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Originally Posted by Joe_Dezod
Timing will yeild some power if you have the gas for it.

I/H/E.

Port the head, and have the exhaust side port matched with your header to ensure maximum efficiency. That will make for some good power. A custom intake manifold with larger TB, and a port matched intake setup will give you great power.

With a fully ported head (including port matching), intake mani w/TB, intake (a good intake), header, exhaust (not just a muffler, and replace the midsection), NST pulley, and a good tune, I'd say 200whp is attainable.
Will the stock fueling system support that? I'm still looking for specs on the OE components.
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I think 376cc will suffice for 200whp, but it won't go beyond that. The Injectorswould be running I think over 80% and the stock pump will survive over 200whp.
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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I think 376cc will suffice for 200whp, but it won't go beyond that. The Injectorswould be running I think over 80% and the stock pump will survive over 200whp.
376cc is officially what the stock injectors are spec'd at? That will easily support it. This is a 3 bar system?
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Read Second post here:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=87561
Old Oct 30, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Oops, it is 372cc. Sorry, my mistake.



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