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Old 11-23-2005, 03:19 AM
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Default Has anyone ran 14's n/a yet???

I was wondering if anyone has busted into the 14s yet n/a? I would think with the MMR race header, exhaust, and CAI it would be possible.
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The car has plenty of power to do it, traction is the problem. With an LSD, it would be no problem. Trap speeds are more important.
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No, but ill let you know when i do
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Old 11-23-2005, 03:37 PM
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ill have a video of it up the day the tracks open back up here lol i have some little things planned here and there till then including a weight reduction but leaving her looking stock so that should help a bit
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i think ^ can do it!!!

completely stock i ran a 16.006 (1st day, 3rd time ever at a drag)
and thats w/ me SUCKING at reaction time of like a minute (ok maybe not a minute, but like 1.7)
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I keep prodding for this same answer, but no one with NA mods ever wants to run.


For some odd reason, they worship a video of a stock tc vs turbo tc, yet no one wants to go to a f'ing track.

Stock, i ran 15.8 @ 87 with 2.37 60'. 20whp from mods (which is do-able) is 15% more power, and should result in 14's.
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I ran a 15.7 first time at the track with only the Injen CAI.....now i have the draxas full exhaust and hoping to get to the track soon...i figure with a header and s-pipe it is very doable!!! but they will be very high 14's
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ROFL, 20whp more wont get you into the 14's.... Not many of you have track experience from what I can tell. It takes much more than a header and exhaust to run 14's.
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Originally Posted by Kenshin
ROFL, 20whp more wont get you into the 14's.... Not many of you have track experience from what I can tell. It takes much more than a header and exhaust to run 14's.

should take mutch im currently in the designe proccess for my intake manifold and im going to fab a 4-2-1 header this winter also then a zpi under drive pully and posobly a ported t/b and hello 1/4's and that shouldnt cost me more then 600-800 in parts and i do all the work my self so i think i can calculate all the beer i will be drinking in there also and still cost the same lol
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I have to agree on you that alot of people in this forum don't have a bunch of track experience. I however, do. Lauunching a FWD on lower profile street tires is a pain, I think it would take a ~2.0 60' and about ~175whp for the tC to hit high 14s.
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I think an LSD would greatly help your chances of hitting 14's... getting off the line in a fwd is the key...
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Originally Posted by WFOTC
I have to agree on you that alot of people in this forum don't have a bunch of track experience. I however, do. Lauunching a FWD on lower profile street tires is a pain, I think it would take a ~2.0 60' and about ~175whp for the tC to hit high 14s.
im sure the 60 foot would have to be under under 2.0 becouse the times i have hit a 15.2 i hit 2.1's for the 60 foot times


it will take some skill for sure to get 14's out of a n/a tc with less then 1k in it but im going to do it next spring (i hope lol)
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well the general rule of thumb is 1/10th off the 60' will get you 2/10ths in the 1/4, so if you got a 2.0 that would be a 15.0xx and being that you don't have 175whp I think it could be done.
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yeah the only thing that sucks about the tc is you can launch awsome after you get used to it (asuming you do get used to the retarted gearing lol) but once you get up to 3rd geart it seems like its winded lol the power just sucks perfect time to spray it if you want nitrous but na i think the only thing i can do is try and make a better intake manifold (i have been studdying harmonic oscillation so i can try and tune it and get more top end power)
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You guys crack me up.

i/h/e will not get you in the low-mid 14s, with the MMW it might get you 14.9 at best. You say traction is your biggest problem, you solve that you are still towing a 3,000lbs car with driver. 160whp isn't going to cut it.

However, you would be able to pull 14s with ZPI head, pistons, mmw header, intake, exhaust and short shifter. THat should give you enough for mid 14s if not better. Adding a light weight crank pulley too.

i/h/e though, . With MMW race header, possible but not likely. A stock tC with an average driver is a very high 15-16 sec car. A great driver can pull 15.7 maybe 15.6. People that claim 15.4-15.5 1/4 stock, show me a video and i'll believe it. Otherwise, no.

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Originally Posted by killerxromances
You guys crack me up.

i/h/e will not get you in the low-mid 14s, with the MMW it might get you 14.9 at best. You say traction is your biggest problem, you solve that you are still towing a 3,000lbs car with driver. 160whp isn't going to cut it.

However, you would be able to pull 14s with ZPI head, pistons, mmw header, intake, exhaust and short shifter. THat should give you enough for mid 14s if not better. Adding a light weight crank pulley too.

i/h/e though, . With MMW race header, possible but not likely. A stock tC with an average driver is a very high 15-16 sec car. A great driver can pull 15.7 maybe 15.6. People that claim 15.4-15.5 1/4 stock, show me a video and i'll believe it. Otherwise, no.

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ill get you video of my car as soon as the tracks open back up and as far as i/h/e if i had the mmw and asuming it does put out 22whp like they claim that should be an easy 14.9 were not trying to tackle low or even mid 14's were just trying to break in to 14's at this time lol but im doing a custom intake manifold i have a intake already and im also doing a custom header witch im going to base off of the compression check and rather then doing equeal length like most companys do im doing a volume based on a compretion check im doing on the engine saterday (equeal lenght doesnt alwasy meen equeal volume) trust me my tc will hit high 14's if not be in like 14.7's-14.6's
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Moved to PH.
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get the phantom grip conversion then get some celica GT-S 16" wheels and drag radials for the front, possibly a good clutch, you might be able to get it, there are STOCK GT-S running low 14's with not a whole lot more HP, alot less torque and they dont weight THAT much less.
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hahaha in chicago gts rims are as rare as a stock civic lol i have been looking for like 6 months now and cant find one set i even offered my pc and 400 bucks at one point and got no bites all together that was like 700-800 bucks and no one bit lol but i realy want some of thoughs rims.

a lsd is good but i want to do it all bolt ons once im in 14's and i can say i did it all bolt ons then ill bust open the tranny and slap in a lsd. for now it will be all parts fabbed by me so i can gain some credibility localy
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is any company working in an LSD for the tC?
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