Usually I hear all kind of stories about who's car is faster.. Now I am not talking about competing against another Tc . What I am talikg about is...

* Will a Tc smoke an RSX-R ?

* Will a Tc smoke an RX-8 ?

* and the list goes on....

I hope our Tc's are more powerful than a Honda !
If anyone has any stories that are true please... do tell !

 

Sorry to sound like this but these threads are getting ridiculous. If you are going to compare a tc to anything compare it to the base model not the sport model or type-s etc!

 

Its pretty simple, look up some times of the tC and other cars... and yeah, compare it with cars in its class.

 

I never bought my tC for the performance value, but more of the economic commuting aspect. Believe me, tC's are more powerful than most sports coupes in the $15-$22 range, but anything over that may be pushing it. Don't get too excited though. You can't expect too much from a car priced under $20 grand.

 

what is a RSX-R? ;P

 

Probably an Integra-R from Japan.

The tC will compete very well against non-sports tuned entry level cars. Like, it'll do well against a Focus but not the SVT Focus.

 

Hey, when racing a focus, win or lose, you're still the winner. The funniest thing I saw once was a riced out focus. It had a new rear bumper with cutouts for dual exhaust. The new bumper wasn't painted though, so it was obviously ghetto. Furthermore, he had plastered vtec stickers all over the ugly pos. Long story short, acceleration was no contest. Also, I wouldn't go so far as to say that the SVT Focus would blow a tC out of the water. From what I've seen from the various road tests of the car, it'd be neck and neck with a tC.

 

well... if we're talking about 100% stock against 100% stock, the numbers clearly show that the tC has more hp to the wheels than say the civic si. However, with simple mods you can really open up the tC's true power. NO superchargers.. just typical Toyota fashion is to restrict the airflow to the engine and making a rediculously larger muffler on the exhaust to make sure it is the quietest thing on the road. Just simple mods that I've made so far to my '06 tC have increased the actual hp to the wheels up to 165hp. and makes it pretty damn quick throughout the rpm and gear range.
but as others have posted here... unmodifieds need to be tested against other unmodifieds within their own respective classes. Face it.. a pinto isnt going to go neck to neck with a 911 turbo!
-Mouse

 

oh i havent seen these in a while lol yea um tc will smoke anything cause this is a TC site!!!!

but really i love my car but i dont think its fast... i think it's quick and can hold its own against all the riced out civics, focuses and integras.... but rx-8 and rsx type-s??? wrong competition come on buddy....

 

if you leave your car stock... you're gonna get smoked...

be prepared... other people with different cars aren't gonna take a break from modding their rides... so you're just gonna have to stay one step ahead of the game..

or if you wanna be fast... and have a price range under 11K??

get a bike...

 

stock for stock?

There are a lot of rather inexpensive mods for Honda's. . . since everyone and their mother makes parts for Honda's. . .

It's fairly easy to get a Civic into 13 second 1/4's. That's not to say that the tC doesn't have potential. . . it does.

I don't have any slips for you, but my buddy's NA Integra can run with EVO's. . . no joke. . . but he put a ton of money into everything. Everything purpose and built for the engine, and an extremely short short short gearing swapped from some other Honda.

Beware older EG Civic hatches. . . extremely light weight, and can put down some crazy times.

But in the end, the tC was never about blinding speed. . . just taking a look at the options/features will tell you that. But the tC is a helluva lot more classy than the Honda's. . . Nobody gives a rat's behind about Johnny's 12 second primer Civic.

 

but definately get the supercharger. It was fun while it lasted...

 

I drive an xA and never visit the tC board,I never even considered it when buying a new car...but,what I would like to know is why the vast majority of threads I see about the tC on the main page is always about making it faster? Is the tC really that slow? Why did you buy it if you wanted a more powerful car?

 

I Dont know were your getting your information, however the last time i checked, the svt focus runs a 15.8 stock and the regular focus runs a 16.3. I was running against a kid with an SVT Focus and the best he could pull off was a 16.1 all night. Someone please correct me if im wrong...

 

The SVT Focus only runs a 15.6 Its not that fast..the gearing in it sucks(way too short and traction control robs it of power). Its not an impressive car at all. Even with my ZX2 and its poor launches I still destroy SVT Foci

 

Umm, not sure if you know this or not, but a stock tC puts out 160hp, probably under 140 at the wheels. You are comparing that to a RX-8 that has a 1.2 liter ROTARY engine that, assuming it is the 6 speed manual, puts out over 230hp stock. Hmm, I wonder who will win.

 

i dont want to comment on stupid posts like this, but my friends evo VIII which is a 25k car completely tuned with 500 hp and is a 11.34 second car in a quarter mile, would smoke my tc but we got together and talked since hes a rican and were both really into cars, take the price of his evo and the base price for a tc and drop the rest of the cash into the tc, tc will ***** the evo completely and utterly like no tomorrow.

and like someone else stated, compare base models not turboed cars. for our price we have a great motor and lots of potential to do well, my rican friend and I are constructing a custom turbo kit for the tc, ill post how it goes this spring/summer. were looking at 11 seconds on about 12 psi of boost, were shooting to kick it to 30 psi of boost after all the motor work is done, if i blow the motor oh well lesson learned and motor swap here i come lol

but yea you need to only look at the cars in the same price range, like the civic si ...the new one gets walked by a tc hands down.

if you wanted to own something super fast, youd save your money and go with something completely custom, you can turn any car into something amazing with time and money, so shut up about whats faster, because in the end something will always beat you , if you wanted to do a quarter mile in about 2 seconds, drive a drag car and shut up.

thank you for your time and sorry if anyone is angered by this post but its the truth and i think anyone with motor experience and is in the car world just because cars are awesome and isnt out there to brag because their ride is the fastest thing known to man, you will agree with me


The End

 

honestly, as long as i had the money, if I had a vette I would be making it faster. It isnt about how fast it is to start with if you simply enjoy toying with them to make them faster. The tC is great for what it is. It has plenty of power in its class and will definitely hold its own stock... but why leave it that way? honestly, I dont know how much power I will add. I am waiting and watching the different kits out to see what works for how long. But, a FWD is not built with racing in mind Period, regardless of hp. So I would at most try for 250 whp most likely and then mod everything to match. That would more than make for a nice, quick and competitive street car that isnt impossible to drive or running so much boost it is a constant maintenance nightmare. when I go for an all out track car, it WILL have rwd and a nice torquey big motor. For straight line, it would mostly be built from a 572 chevy crate motor. I am sorry, but no fwd other than the tube frame boys is going to be touching that. RWD, plus a v8 that can spin some nice rpm and has a much better torque curve is the way to go in a drag race. Sorry to those that will try to argue, but put me in a 400whp NA v8 with RWD and I will run against ANY fwd FI 4 banger with even 450whp all day long, and make them cry there is a huge difference in being able to produce high torque, high hp with na and put it to the ground via rwd.

but i digress. no the tc isnt slow for what it is.. key words "what it is" same for anything. an rsx-s isnt a race car either, as a matter of fact almost no production cars are. they are all either competitive or not in their class.

 

Whoa... whoa whoa... Some of the claims made on this board have me laughing.


1- If you bought a tC for performance, then you've made a mistake. Period. It is unusually quick for an $18,000 car, but it is NOT FAST. Do NOT compare it to true sports cars.

2- If your only goal in buying a tC is to make it faster than "a honda," then you've also got problems. If you're looking to be faster than a civic EX/LX and EQUAL to previous generation Si's, then you're ok. Yes, I said equal. EQUAL. See my video in autosports if you doubt it, it's a equally modded Si with an equal driver. If you're trying to buy something faster than the new 197hp Si, then you're sadly mistaken.

The 197hp si isn't the fastest USDM honda. Neither is the RSX-S. It is hands-down the 240hp, 6-speed accord. I get to watch them tick off easy mid 14's all night at the track.

When it comes to aftermarket, there are several BASE RSX's deep in the 14's without boost. Same with EP3's. No one has cracked 15.00 in a tC yet.


3- To the guy who claims 165whp... go run the 1/4. I'm sick of people on here posting up dynos and high whp figures and won't back it up with timeslips. I would HATE to think I'm the 2nd fastest NA tC on here with just I/H, but it's apparently the truth. Do me and aarontrini a favor and prove me wrong.


4- The SVT focus sucks ***** when it comes to performance. It isn't even close to the fastest stock focus, the european focus RS. This is Ford screwing over the USDM.

5- The supercharger is not a tC-exclusive. It has been available for a wide range of toyota models since the mid 90s. Do not compare a supercharged tC vs. any stock car, since at that point, the tC is not stock.

 

And I second the engineer.


If you want to go fast, RWD V8. Period. You can boost our little 4-bangers to high hell, but do the same to a V8 and you'll get twice the power.

You need to appreciate, but not worship, what you drive. FWD has its advantages in the rain and lower power loss to the wheels, and that's about it. It loses in a drag race, and it loses around an autoX track.