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Originally Posted by malibuboy54
when i was buying my tc, i asked the dealer (the financial guy that does warranties/financing) if adding any moderate mods (exhaust, header, intake) would void the warranty....and he said nothing of that nature would. he owned a tc and fixed it up and he still was under the toyota warranty....so under that imperssion and his word, even asking him over 3 times, i wouldn't worry about the injen cai....and just get the car into the dealer!
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Thats bull____, i worked at a toyota dealership, the finance guys are the biggest crooks in the dealership, they have access to pretty much everything. What the finance guy does is to sell you ____ after you buy the car to make more money, they make you buy ____ you don't even need. They will sit there for 20 mins just trying to convince you. This is what they have in their minds $$$.
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It it ILLEGAL for them to "void" a warranty that does not include a clause saying they can. They can refuse service IF they can prove that your mod caused that particular problem. This is not a matter of the dealer or Toyota's policy, it is a matter of law, period. Yes, most will try to rip you off.. and honestly, most will do half-a$$ed work even if they do take it (which is why private mechanics have more business than they can handle), but you can fight it. Now, if you replace a header and the O2 goes out, yes, look for them to be skeptical, I would be. The occurences of O2's going out that early on thier own are very low. The chance of a poor install is much higher. But if you know your way around an engine compartment, you can question and challenge them into proving it.
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As far as water damage, people make too much of this sometimes as well. If the engine did not hydrolock, you are fine. I have placed a vacuum line in a glass of cold water to blow carbon deposits away before on cars. A small amount of water will not hurt your engine. Now, if you submerge the filter, suck a bunch in and it comes to a screeching halt... you probably have issues 
When I still had my K&N on (before the crappy mount broke) I had that same cover over mine. Worked great.
When I still had my K&N on (before the crappy mount broke) I had that same cover over mine. Worked great.
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Originally Posted by davedavetC
see at first i thought that too. that the car went into "safe mode" and ran rich, but then i was told that it makes the car run lean which is bad. i was told by my friend who is a toyota tech that the car runs lean.... now im confused... but if the car was running really rich due to the O2 sensor being bad... the car would bog above 3krpm? cuz thats waht it does... like it doesnt wanna go over 3k... but doesnt wanna be under 2.5k it sucks. and its no longer fun to drive lol... i never thought about trading my car in so much as i have the past couple of weeks 
mostly because this problem came from nowhere....
oh and on a side note.... the little filter "glove" thingy that K&N has for their CAI SUCKS! i put it on my CAI and it just got soaked with water and dirt and made the filter dirty....
btw i took the filter off and the inside of the filter and CAI piping was dry. so i dont think there was any water damage. plus if there was would the car even drive?
mostly because this problem came from nowhere....oh and on a side note.... the little filter "glove" thingy that K&N has for their CAI SUCKS! i put it on my CAI and it just got soaked with water and dirt and made the filter dirty....
btw i took the filter off and the inside of the filter and CAI piping was dry. so i dont think there was any water damage. plus if there was would the car even drive?
I would say Toyota tect friend isnt right. That makes no since for the car to run lean in safe mode. Why else would it be "safe mode".
I wouldnt trade you car in over this. It will prolle end up being something very stupid and easy to fix.
Good luck!!!
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Originally Posted by davedavetC
yea, im not trading it in, i just have thought about it recently, even before the problem occured, but im not getting rid of my tC for a long time :D
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havent heard that but one thing for sure. 1 out of 3 of the a/f sensor on the header are cross threaded from the factory. So be ready for that. 2 of our 3 tC's were cross threaded and those sensors arnt cheap.
bump, went to the dealer today, they said it was an air fuel sensor, and they ordered it, and it should be in by either tomorrow or wednesday, so the car will be back to normal wednesday at the latest. :D
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TADA! Hope that it's all good when they replace that sensor... should be GTG... they have service manual procedures to test the sensor specifically, so if they claim it's the deal, then it most likely is...
Get back on the road soon!
Get back on the road soon!
