Notices
Scion tC 1G Drivetrain & Power Engine and transmission discussions...

Installing magnaflow exhaust, instead of cutting behind the cat, get an s pipe?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 01:00 AM
  #1  
Jlowe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 337
Default Installing magnaflow exhaust, instead of cutting behind the cat, get an s pipe?

I'm a little confused, i've searched and found out that the S pipe removes the second cat.
http://www.planetmagnaflow.com/pdf/16640.pdf
is the instructions i'm using to install my Magnaflow catback exhaust.
Just a question though, instead of cutting 3.5" behind the cat, can I get a, let's say invidia or megan s pipe, and then just clamp the midpipe without cutting to the spipe?

Or am I completely wrong?
Oh, and this won't throw a CEL will it?
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 01:04 AM
  #2  
Jlowe's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 337
Default

Alright, sorry, I found my mistake.
Heres a quote from another forum
An to correct an earlier comment, the S-Pipe does NOT contain a catalytic converter. The secondary cat is located at the head of the Mid-Pipe. The S-pipe is usually separate from cat-back kits and only part of one header system that I know of. Yes, the S-Pipe is the most restrictive component after the header. Correctly built S-Pipes do not throw a MIL (Malfunction Indicator Lamp). Replacing the header with one that does not have the primary cat will.
So it's at the tip of the stock midpipe. Will I still have to cut before the cat? Even with an aftermarket s pipe? Seems stupid that I would have stock header, aftermarket or stock s pipe, piece of the stock midpipe with cat, magnaflow midpipe, muffler.

I'm just really confused, someone want to correct me?
thanks.
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 01:39 AM
  #3  
elcapetan's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Scikotics
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 693
From: Niceville, FL
Default

its before the resonator on mid-pipe. just take both off and put aftermarket in. you have stock header you are ok for emissions.
Old Aug 22, 2009 | 04:50 PM
  #4  
imsonofagun's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Scion Evolution
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,109
From: Woodbridge, VA
Default

The magnaflow is the only cat-back that keeps the factory catalytic converter on the mid-pipe. You would have to get a custom piece made to remove the cat in the mid-pipe. Another option is to get a different mid-pipe (Megan Racing), but then you'd have to cut/weld the Magnaflow exhaust to mate up.

Something else I didn't like about the Magnaflow system is it uses different size piping (almost 2.5" in one section, back down to 2.25" in another). The Megan mid-pipe would resolve most of that though, but as I said above, would require cutting and welding.

If you look at most cars on the market, the catalytic converter is setup a little different than on the tC. Most other vehicles have a flange directly after the catalytic converter on the mid-pipe. The companies that sell cat-back exhausts sell the section that bolts up to the flange on the catalytic converter (hence the name cat-back (from the cat to tail pipe) exhaust). Since the flange after our catalytic converter is right before the muffler, we have axle-back exhausts, which some companies consider cat-back exhausts. Other companies that replace the full mid-pipe call their exhausts cat-backs, but are technically down-pipe back exhausts (the s-pipe is normally called down pipes on other vehicles).
Old Aug 23, 2009 | 12:45 AM
  #5  
my06tc's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,992
Default

it would be so much easier if the tc's had removable cats so we dont have to get custom midpipes done....but im sure we can do that ourself put a flange at the end of the cat
Old Aug 23, 2009 | 05:40 PM
  #6  
User 112921's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,239
Default

would getting a megan s pipe do much? like make it louder, any slight gains? and anyone know how much a new one is?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
helloninja
PPC: Engine / Drivetrain
22
Mar 19, 2018 04:50 AM
Squishface
PPC: Vehicles
3
Sep 15, 2015 06:51 AM
PTUNING
PPC: Engine / Drivetrain
3
Dec 11, 2014 08:09 PM
PTUNING
Exclusive Sponsored Sales
0
Dec 6, 2014 03:58 PM
Hardhitten
Scion xA/xB 1st-Gen Drivetrain & Power
8
Nov 6, 2003 05:23 AM




All times are GMT. The time now is 02:06 PM.