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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 04:54 AM
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I've been looking around on the internet for a LSD and the only one ive found is:

http://www.manufacturersdepot.com/s....=2&category=83

anyone know of any other companies that make it for the tc? or a better price?

Also, how many of you guys have it?

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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 04:57 AM
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quaife is awesome..

however.. TRD bought the rights for it.. so TRD owns it now.. you'll be paying a prettier penny for the TRD name.
Old Nov 23, 2006 | 05:01 AM
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What about the Phantom Grip?
Old Nov 23, 2006 | 06:25 AM
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TRD Sparks sells them for about $1100. Normal MSRP is $1350.

http://www.trdsparks.com/displaypart...&parts_id=1310
Old Nov 23, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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A phantom grip is not a real lsd. It is a cheap knockoff. If you make any serious power there is a very good chance it will break apart on the line. If you are going to spend the money and are serious about performance don't cheap out. Buy something that works and is proven.
Old Nov 23, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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yeah at this point since toyo has bought out the quaiffe the only decent way to go is TRD...
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 06scionsc
A phantom grip is not a real lsd. It is a cheap knockoff. If you make any serious power there is a very good chance it will break apart on the line. If you are going to spend the money and are serious about performance don't cheap out. Buy something that works and is proven.
So, would a PG be suitable for a modest power application? Say 200ish. And I wouldn't say it's a cheap knockoff. I'd call it a less expensive alternative. The reason they cost less is the fact that it's not a whole new differential.
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 07:05 AM
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The Phantom Grip can hardly be called a cheap "knock off." To add to captainlaziness's post, the PG also has one BIG advantage over the Quaife LSD: when one wheel lifts, the PG will still have power going through the other wheel. In the Quaife, if one wheel lifts, you get 0 power going to the ground.

This counts for whenever one wheel has no traction. If you live in cold climates where there's snow and ice you're probably better off with a PG. But that's only if you drive through snow and ice or mud or something.

Otherwise, yea, I'd go with Quaife if money were no issue.
Old Nov 24, 2006 | 07:21 AM
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In the event of a drive wheel leaving the ground the Quaife acts as an open diff?

Hows that?
Old Nov 29, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Thanks for the info guys... Looks like Quaife is the way to go
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The Quaife is a torque biasing machine. So it transfers torque in ratios; the less the grip on one wheel, the more the grip on the other. Howstuffworks.com gives the number of 5:1 being the maximum ratio. So in event of low grip on one side, you can get a maximum of five times the torque on the other side. When that 1 becomes zero (complete loss of grip in one wheel) the bias becomes a 5:0. I gotta admit my knowledge on differentials is based largely on howstuffworks.com and books and the like. Their mechanicals are weird to me.
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