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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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Anyone have these, know the difference, or know what will yield the most power? MMW says it yields 26HP & 24.4TQ and Strup makes 10-12 HP. MMW is hand made and Strup is Robotic TIG welded. Im looking to make the most HP and TQ. I have allready decided on intake and exhaust. Thanks.

P.S. If anyone has information about S pipes or mid pipes throw that in there too. Thanks
Old Nov 10, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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mmw is by far the only header that's 4-2-1 design.. all other headers are 4-1. 4-2-1 headers yield more hp and tq.. so basically you answered your own question by saying that mmw makes 26hp/24.tq and strup ranging from 10-12hp. the mmw header is already a header and s-pipe in 1.. so you dont have to worry about buying an s-pipe. the strup in the other hand, is just the header. no s-pipe. i suggest you just get the mmw header for $550 rather than spending for a strup header that's merely as much.
Old Nov 10, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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First...NO header makes 26hp on it's own. Most likely it is with the combo of at least a full exhaust system and possibly with intake. MMW header is also robotically welded as it says on their website. Now, the 4-2-1 design does not yield more horsepower and torque. Unfortunately i'm not an expert in the area of header numbers, but 4-1 and 4-2-1 only really differ in where the hp and torque come in to play. One powers up better in lower RPM's and the other in higher RPM's. They both on their own, make about the same hp so it really just comes down to which product do you feel is more trustworthy on your car...Strup or MMW
Old Nov 10, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BuddhasTC
First...NO header makes 26hp on it's own. Most likely it is with the combo of at least a full exhaust system and possibly with intake. MMW header is also robotically welded as it says on their website. Now, the 4-2-1 design does not yield more horsepower and torque. Unfortunately i'm not an expert in the area of header numbers, but 4-1 and 4-2-1 only really differ in where the hp and torque come in to play. One powers up better in lower RPM's and the other in higher RPM's. They both on their own, make about the same hp so it really just comes down to which product do you feel is more trustworthy on your car...Strup or MMW
^^As he said. it's with exhaust.
Old Nov 10, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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To get everything straight.
The 26HP gain was with an Intake and Header. The car already had an Exhaust for the baseliine.

The header made 18hp by itself with STOCK EXHAUST AND STOCK INTAKE.
Old Nov 10, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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Wow, niceee. Greater than I expected. Thanks MMW!
Old Nov 11, 2006 | 02:28 AM
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Hmm interesting. Which header makes more power in which band i.e. strup in higher bands or lower RPM bands. And as well for MMW and does anyone have these?
Old Nov 11, 2006 | 02:46 AM
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If it's 4-1, higher RPM, if it is 4-2-1, low and mid RPM range. Also at high, but not so much as other up there I THINK.
Old Nov 11, 2006 | 03:35 AM
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MMW's header is, as said, a 4-2-1 design, and eliminates the need for an aftermarket down-pipe due to the length.

It's not fair to compare the Strup header against the MMW without adding any number of aftermarket s-pipes to it.

I'd wager that any of the aftermarket s-pipes paired with the Strup header will come within 1-2hp + or - of the MMW header.


That said, I had the MMW header on my Supercharged tC. I had no complaints. It fit snug, came with all of the parts, and looked absolutely _____in' with a black ceramic thermal coating.
Old Nov 11, 2006 | 05:23 AM
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Good point about adding the S pipe into consideration when determining horsepower. Any numbers with the Strup and an S pipe?
Old Nov 13, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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Strup + spipe = 12-13whp
MMW = 16-18whp
Old Nov 13, 2006 | 01:33 AM
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sp0t, where have you seen a mmw header for $550? I would appreciate it if you told me. ha
Old Nov 13, 2006 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by whiteshirt
sp0t, where have you seen a mmw header for $550? I would appreciate it if you told me. ha
Its on sale for one more week in the sponsored sales section.
It's been on for like 1 month already.
Old Nov 14, 2006 | 02:25 AM
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only one more week.... that sucks i need to find some cash fast.
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