More speed?
Bolt ons are nice and all, but like rosedale said... overall they really don't do much of anything. You will THINK it is faster b/c it sounds cooler - but that's about it. The intake might get you 6-8 whp and giving it the benefit of the doubt, maybe 1-2 whp for the exhaust (though more like 0 whp). Even if you did header, intake, full exhaust, intake manifold, pulleys, and a tuned unichip - you'd still be under 200whp.
Turbo or don't bother if your expectation is power.
Turbo or don't bother if your expectation is power.
Bolt ons are nice and all, but like rosedale said... overall they really don't do much of anything. You will THINK it is faster b/c it sounds cooler - but that's about it. The intake might get you 6-8 whp and giving it the benefit of the doubt, maybe 1-2 whp for the exhaust (though more like 0 whp). Even if you did header, intake, full exhaust, intake manifold, pulleys, and a tuned unichip - you'd still be under 200whp.
Turbo or don't bother if your expectation is power.
Turbo or don't bother if your expectation is power.
most people say not worth getting bolt ons..im sure if that was the case no one would be getting them...but the thing is most people go from bolts ons for a few months and they want more power then go turbo.....some go straight to turbo cause stock tc isnt too fast and they thing getting basic botls isnt worth it or heard its not worth it..i say you have to experience it for yourself if you went with others say you wouldnt be happy so this way if someone ask you should i get and exhasut you can say well if your getting one get a full exhasut not and axle back then you explain why....now if you didnt have one you wouldnt be able to explain or understand why it is or isnt worth it
ok first off I have everybolt on u can imagine, h/i/e/p and my car dyno'd stock at 143whp. with everything I have I'm lucky to be anywhere near 160/170 IF THAT and that's a HUGE if lets say I add a unichip ill be around 175/180. NOT worth the bolt on route.
there's only a hand full of people pushing close to 200whp NA, tcpete being one of them and he's done engine work (PnP, tuned EMS, etc) on top of the bolt ons. we don't have a honda which is in fact easier to go NA cause they CAN make power like that. our 2azfe's aren't great for NA power unless ur spending BIGGG bucks over $5-7k in which it would be such a waste to be anywhere near 200whp, bc with those 5-7k u can go boost with a great tune and even work ur engine a bit.
to bB unless u have proper evidence that it is possible and have dyno sheets and the whole shibang I disagree with u. bc even though bolt ons may say they give u 10-20whp for a header 10/15 for a exhaust 5-10 for an intake and 10-15 for pulleys, that's NOT the case and are NOT realistic numbers. remember Tc's dyno at 143whp (5spd) and 130whp(auto) not the suggested 160/161 from the factor. same thing with XB's they dyno close to 80whp not 107 or watever it says from the factory
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there's only a hand full of people pushing close to 200whp NA, tcpete being one of them and he's done engine work (PnP, tuned EMS, etc) on top of the bolt ons. we don't have a honda which is in fact easier to go NA cause they CAN make power like that. our 2azfe's aren't great for NA power unless ur spending BIGGG bucks over $5-7k in which it would be such a waste to be anywhere near 200whp, bc with those 5-7k u can go boost with a great tune and even work ur engine a bit.
to bB unless u have proper evidence that it is possible and have dyno sheets and the whole shibang I disagree with u. bc even though bolt ons may say they give u 10-20whp for a header 10/15 for a exhaust 5-10 for an intake and 10-15 for pulleys, that's NOT the case and are NOT realistic numbers. remember Tc's dyno at 143whp (5spd) and 130whp(auto) not the suggested 160/161 from the factor. same thing with XB's they dyno close to 80whp not 107 or watever it says from the factory
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Last edited by rosedaleny806; Oct 12, 2009 at 11:47 PM.
Shoot i wish bolt ons got me 200whp! But it aint gonna happen! If you want Speed as you title says go turbo or s/c even (gotta find a used one cause they discontinued). But in all seriousness search next time! I swear this question gets asked 15 times a day!
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i don't really care as obviously he doesn't care enough to read the hundreds of other threads of people asking the same thing...
not like our advice is gonna change over time.. the general answer is still going to be similar..
so yea.. can't go wrong with better suspension.. or tires.
now if he wants the make the car look pretty... ehh.. f#@& answering that question.
not like our advice is gonna change over time.. the general answer is still going to be similar..
so yea.. can't go wrong with better suspension.. or tires.
now if he wants the make the car look pretty... ehh.. f#@& answering that question.
Ha i guess the guy had it coming with a question like that. yeah you can do the typical bolton mods, cost you like 500-600 bucks for minimal gains, but your car sounds different. But like they were saying, if you really want to put down some numbers, FI is your only bet. If you don't have that kind of cash for the FI route, then take the suspension route. considerably less, more reliability, and makes the TC a blast to drive. Also please do a search before you post since there are more than enough post on this topic. I guess every new TC owner, just doesn't know what to do with their car to make power, beats me and anybody's guess for that matter.
As you have read, gains are obviously going to be minimal compared to the gains from Forced Induction. But, just remember, F/I is going to cost an arm and a leg. I mean, the systems out there now are around $4K not including installation but only running 8 lbs of boost. You will have to probably upgrade the brakes, definitely the clutch, and possibly engine internals if you want more psi. If you have like $3-3,500 (maybe less) to spend, get a CAI (<$325), a ported/polished head (and throttle body) ($1500-1700 (not including core charged which will be reimbursed)), complimented by a header (possibly re-worked to match new head ports) (< $400) , and an exhaust ($375-400) with s and mid pipe ($175) plus tuning (maybe $200). The total of above is $3175 (obviously estimated). This will add plenty of zip without too much serious work (except for port/polish). Plus a swaybar and lowering spring ($500) but those would be purchased anyway with the turbo. The car will be a load of fun to drive without taking away from daily driving. Plus, some of this stuff you can get used, including a turbo kit in the classifieds. Just a suggestion.


